Yes... but Punk will be getting cheered by next weekcero2k wrote:he attacks a babyface while not helping another babyface. it's easy to manipulate the wwe universeyourcrapsweak wrote:I'm confused, King and Lawler are playing that like a heel turn for Punk, but how exactly is that a heel turn? Am I missing something, here?
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maybe, but you can be sure that wwe will make him the bad guy in the eyes of the fansBig Red Machine wrote:Yes... but Punk will be getting cheered by next weekcero2k wrote:he attacks a babyface while not helping another babyface. it's easy to manipulate the wwe universeyourcrapsweak wrote:I'm confused, King and Lawler are playing that like a heel turn for Punk, but how exactly is that a heel turn? Am I missing something, here?
on a side note, being in St louis, they should have tried to get Orton there, or at least Bourne
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I still don't see how he turned heel. He attacked his potential future opponent, why is that turning heel, necessarily?
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Because he did it in a dishonorable wayyourcrapsweak wrote:I still don't see how he turned heel. He attacked his potential future opponent, why is that turning heel, necessarily?
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I think I'm the only one in the world who still does not see it. If he did turn heel, then it was a really half-assed and shitty turn.Big Red Machine wrote:Because he did it in a dishonorable wayyourcrapsweak wrote:I still don't see how he turned heel. He attacked his potential future opponent, why is that turning heel, necessarily?
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I agree that it's half-assed, I think they can salvage it a bit and not make it a heel turn, but it's definitely thereyourcrapsweak wrote:I think I'm the only one in the world who still does not see it. If he did turn heel, then it was a really half-assed and shitty turn.Big Red Machine wrote:Because he did it in a dishonorable wayyourcrapsweak wrote:I still don't see how he turned heel. He attacked his potential future opponent, why is that turning heel, necessarily?
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It's actually starting to piss me off because I DO NOT SEE IT ONE BIT.Big Red Machine wrote:I agree that it's half-assed, I think they can salvage it a bit and not make it a heel turn, but it's definitely there
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He ran into the ring and blindsided The Rock. He basically jumped him from behind.yourcrapsweak wrote:It's actually starting to piss me off because I DO NOT SEE IT ONE BIT.Big Red Machine wrote:I agree that it's half-assed, I think they can salvage it a bit and not make it a heel turn, but it's definitely there
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It wasn't a blindside or an attack from behind, it was a clothesline. Secondly, I saw it as Punk making a statement, because Rock made him look like a b*tch earlier in the night and basically challenged him for his title.Big Red Machine wrote:He ran into the ring and blindsided The Rock. He basically jumped him from behind.yourcrapsweak wrote:It's actually starting to piss me off because I DO NOT SEE IT ONE BIT.Big Red Machine wrote:I agree that it's half-assed, I think they can salvage it a bit and not make it a heel turn, but it's definitely there
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he walked out on cena while he was getting beat up and then attacked the face helping out cena. left the ring without even turning to see the fans, it's a heel turn.Big Red Machine wrote:He ran into the ring and blindsided The Rock. He basically jumped him from behind.yourcrapsweak wrote:It's actually starting to piss me off because I DO NOT SEE IT ONE BIT.Big Red Machine wrote:I agree that it's half-assed, I think they can salvage it a bit and not make it a heel turn, but it's definitely there
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He looked really torn to me though, like he didn't like what he just did.
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I don't see it either lol. It seemed more like making a statement than turning heel to me.yourcrapsweak wrote:I think I'm the only one in the world who still does not see it. If he did turn heel, then it was a really half-assed and shitty turn.Big Red Machine wrote:Because he did it in a dishonorable wayyourcrapsweak wrote:I still don't see how he turned heel. He attacked his potential future opponent, why is that turning heel, necessarily?
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I missed the whole thing so thanx to all of you for this thread. IMO, a half-assed heel turn is best. A half-assed heel turn generates more curiosity, a cliff-hanger if you will, as shown by the discussion it has invoked here.
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At the time, it was a Heel Turn because Lawler said it was. I can hear Vince in the headset now... "He's blowing it! It's not working! Sell it Jerry! Sell it Jerry! Tell them what he's supposed to be doing right now!"
I think they realized how shitty it was between shows and rethought it, prompting the only segment from this whole thing I actually enjoyed, in Punk's confrontation of Lawler to start the next show.
I think they realized how shitty it was between shows and rethought it, prompting the only segment from this whole thing I actually enjoyed, in Punk's confrontation of Lawler to start the next show.
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