BRM Reviews the 4/14/2011 Impact (FIRE TAZ AND TENAY!)

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Re: BRM Reviews the 4/14/2011 Impact (FIRE TAZ AND TENAY!)

Post by Rabid619 » Apr 18th, '11, 16:03

badnewzxl wrote:Have you ever met a racist person? There are almost always exceptions. Hernendez claims that white folks have been keeping him down; of course he'll be cool with the one's that are helping him. Immortal has been helping Hernendez since he returned, so of course he can get along with JJ. Life is no fun when everything is just black or white, and wrestling is too. I like the inconsistency in Hernendez's prejudice, it makes it all more realistic....
Majority of my town is quite racist. I wouldnt say Immortal is helping Hernandez out because when he came back, Hernandez was asked to join Immortal and said yes. I dont recall them doing much for him unless im not recalling that problem he had with Dixie correctly.
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Re: BRM Reviews the 4/14/2011 Impact (FIRE TAZ AND TENAY!)

Post by Lynas » Apr 19th, '11, 00:48

Rabid619 wrote: I wouldnt say Immortal is helping Hernandez out because when he came back, Hernandez was asked to join Immortal and said yes.
Here's the thing about that one, why have him agree to work with the rich white man, when he's going to go on a tirade against them... why (like BRM pointed out) pose with a black guy & a white guy or whatever... when Hernandez is on the mic stating that his race is far superior? (like BRM said) there should have been some animosity that he was forced to team with these guys instead of having Anarquia (however you spell it) in the match...

If Mexican America are going to hate on all other non MA's then they have to act it at all times... not teaming him with the people he slates... it devalues all he says... "We're better, we don't need the Americans, we are far superior all we need is ourselves...oh but please can you American team with me in this match...I kinda need you"

At least have Hernandez pull a disgusted face whenever the American wants to tag him, have him be disgusted to the touch or have him be in the match and pull some ref distracting double moves with Anarquia and refuse to tag in his American team mates so as not to be upstaged or proved wrong, if he claims to be superior... heel or face he'd want to prove that... & on the other side of the coin... if somebody is putting you down... why would you appear happy to team with him... you wouldn't want Hernandez on your team... you'd be watching over your shoulder as he couldn't be trusted... you'd be watching where Anarquia is at all times...

It's little touches like this that TNA miss... the psychology (anybody that knows me, knows I'm a big fan of the pyschology in a feud) that can take their stories from odd and weird, to believable & watchable... these little touches would've really put across in the story "Wow, they won't even work together, Mexican America are asshole...BOOOOO" creating more heat & putting across the Mexican America hate and disgust...

...but another boat missed by TNA... just because they miss the finer details...

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Post by badnewzxl » Apr 19th, '11, 01:21

Lynas wrote:
Rabid619 wrote: I wouldnt say Immortal is helping Hernandez out because when he came back, Hernandez was asked to join Immortal and said yes.
Here's the thing about that one, why have him agree to work with the rich white man, when he's going to go on a tirade against them... why (like BRM pointed out) pose with a black guy & a white guy or whatever... when Hernandez is on the mic stating that his race is far superior? (like BRM said) there should have been some animosity that he was forced to team with these guys instead of having Anarquia (however you spell it) in the match...

If Mexican America are going to hate on all other non MA's then they have to act it at all times... not teaming him with the people he slates... it devalues all he says... "We're better, we don't need the Americans, we are far superior all we need is ourselves...oh but please can you American team with me in this match...I kinda need you"

At least have Hernandez pull a disgusted face whenever the American wants to tag him, have him be disgusted to the touch or have him be in the match and pull some ref distracting double moves with Anarquia and refuse to tag in his American team mates so as not to be upstaged or proved wrong, if he claims to be superior... heel or face he'd want to prove that... & on the other side of the coin... if somebody is putting you down... why would you appear happy to team with him... you wouldn't want Hernandez on your team... you'd be watching over your shoulder as he couldn't be trusted... you'd be watching where Anarquia is at all times...

It's little touches like this that TNA miss... the psychology (anybody that knows me, knows I'm a big fan of the pyschology in a feud) that can take their stories from odd and weird, to believable & watchable... these little touches would've really put across in the story "Wow, they won't even work together, Mexican America are a**hole...BOOOOO" creating more heat & putting across the Mexican America hate and disgust...

...but another boat missed by TNA... just because they miss the finer details...
Superiority does not mean exclusion. Hitler didn't look anything like the people he said were the chosen people. You guys are requiring that a character on tv be more logical than people who've actually existed in history.

Isn't that asking a bit much?
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Re: BRM Reviews the 4/14/2011 Impact (FIRE TAZ AND TENAY!)

Post by Big Red Machine » Apr 19th, '11, 03:21

badnewzxl wrote:
Lynas wrote:
Rabid619 wrote: I wouldnt say Immortal is helping Hernandez out because when he came back, Hernandez was asked to join Immortal and said yes.
Here's the thing about that one, why have him agree to work with the rich white man, when he's going to go on a tirade against them... why (like BRM pointed out) pose with a black guy & a white guy or whatever... when Hernandez is on the mic stating that his race is far superior? (like BRM said) there should have been some animosity that he was forced to team with these guys instead of having Anarquia (however you spell it) in the match...

If Mexican America are going to hate on all other non MA's then they have to act it at all times... not teaming him with the people he slates... it devalues all he says... "We're better, we don't need the Americans, we are far superior all we need is ourselves...oh but please can you American team with me in this match...I kinda need you"

At least have Hernandez pull a disgusted face whenever the American wants to tag him, have him be disgusted to the touch or have him be in the match and pull some ref distracting double moves with Anarquia and refuse to tag in his American team mates so as not to be upstaged or proved wrong, if he claims to be superior... heel or face he'd want to prove that... & on the other side of the coin... if somebody is putting you down... why would you appear happy to team with him... you wouldn't want Hernandez on your team... you'd be watching over your shoulder as he couldn't be trusted... you'd be watching where Anarquia is at all times...

It's little touches like this that TNA miss... the psychology (anybody that knows me, knows I'm a big fan of the pyschology in a feud) that can take their stories from odd and weird, to believable & watchable... these little touches would've really put across in the story "Wow, they won't even work together, Mexican America are a**hole...BOOOOO" creating more heat & putting across the Mexican America hate and disgust...

...but another boat missed by TNA... just because they miss the finer details...
Superiority does not mean exclusion. Hitler didn't look anything like the people he said were the chosen people. You guys are requiring that a character on tv be more logical than people who've actually existed in history.

Isn't that asking a bit much?
I think we can all admit that Hitler was a lot crazier than most others. And although he didn't look Aryan, Hitler was still Germanic. Pope and Jarrett are both not Mexican.
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Post by badnewzxl » Apr 19th, '11, 14:55

Hitler was Germanic....so were many of the Jews he persecuted (and don't forget, Hitler's mother was Jewish, making him also half Jewish). You just said the guy was crazy, yet you try to justify his inconsistency; while condemning Hernendez for his inconsistency.

But let's not talk about Hitler; what about Rastas? Rastas believe that they are the chosen ppl, and are superior to all others physically and spiritually but their disdain for western culture is far greater than their superiority complex. The western world undermines their beliefs, so of course they are more harsh on the US or Great Britain than they are on China or India. Is that illogical? Should they just dislike everyone equally just bc they feel they are superior? I don't think so; and I don't think it has ever happened.

That's like saying it's logical to believe in dragons, but illogical to think they don't breathe fire.
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Re: BRM Reviews the 4/14/2011 Impact (FIRE TAZ AND TENAY!)

Post by Chris Everlast » Apr 19th, '11, 15:20

badnewzxl wrote: (and don't forget, Hitler's mother was Jewish, making him also half Jewish).
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This is an assumption, barely anything is known of Hitler's heritage except that his grandfather MIGHT have been jewish.

And I'll let you guys go back on topic, lol.
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Re: BRM Reviews the 4/14/2011 Impact (FIRE TAZ AND TENAY!)

Post by Big Red Machine » Apr 19th, '11, 19:28

badnewzxl wrote:Hitler was Germanic....so were many of the Jews he persecuted (and don't forget, Hitler's mother was Jewish, making him also half Jewish). You just said the guy was crazy, yet you try to justify his inconsistency; while condemning Hernendez for his inconsistency.

But let's not talk about Hitler; what about Rastas? Rastas believe that they are the chosen ppl, and are superior to all others physically and spiritually but their disdain for western culture is far greater than their superiority complex. The western world undermines their beliefs, so of course they are more harsh on the US or Great Britain than they are on China or India. Is that illogical? Should they just dislike everyone equally just bc they feel they are superior? I don't think so; and I don't think it has ever happened.

That's like saying it's logical to believe in dragons, but illogical to think they don't breathe fire.
The thing is that in wrestling, we are stipulating that the dragon already exists. Knowing what we know about dragons, it is logical to assume that they breathe fire. The guy with the Rasta gimmick shouldn't be happy about teaming with the non-Rastas. Just because Hernandez hates everyone equally doesn't mean that you shouldn't show the hate.
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