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Here's Who's Left

Post by Big Red Machine » Aug 12th, '15, 18:44

Unless my math is wrong, the only people who can win the G1 are:

AJ or Tanahashi from A Block (who will face off on Friday to determine who wins the block).

Nakamura or Okada from B Block (who will face off on Saturday to determine who wins the block).

Anyone else find this a bit lame? Normally we have more than one match per block that will matter on the final day. If they wanted this, they could have just done a single elimination tournament.
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Re: Here's Who's Left

Post by cero2k » Aug 12th, '15, 20:18

we always kinda knew that the G! belonged to Nakamura, and wishfully AJ, so i'm not suprised. I would have liked for Ibushi to take Tanahashi's spot to give us some dark horse hope, but oh well. As long as the aces are there, G1 will always be predictable. What i wonder is if Nakamura goes for the IC, or finally challenges Okada for the Heavyweight
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Post by Big Red Machine » Aug 12th, '15, 20:23

cero2k wrote:we always kinda knew that the G! belonged to Nakamura, and wishfully AJ, so i'm not suprised. I would have liked for Ibushi to take Tanahashi's spot to give us some dark horse hope, but oh well. As long as the aces are there, G1 will always be predictable. What i wonder is if Nakamura goes for the IC, or finally challenges Okada for the Heavyweight
It's not just who might realistically win. It's the fact that going into the final days, no one else even has a chance. That's what is annoying me.
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Post by cero2k » Aug 12th, '15, 20:32

Big Red Machine wrote:
cero2k wrote:we always kinda knew that the G! belonged to Nakamura, and wishfully AJ, so i'm not suprised. I would have liked for Ibushi to take Tanahashi's spot to give us some dark horse hope, but oh well. As long as the aces are there, G1 will always be predictable. What i wonder is if Nakamura goes for the IC, or finally challenges Okada for the Heavyweight
It's not just who might realistically win. It's the fact that going into the final days, no one else even has a chance. That's what is annoying me.
yeah, it kinda makes it pointless to follow all the other guys' matches, but it gives them a chance to throw away the booking for points and give us some interesting wins like Shibata/Tenzan or Honma/Ishii. Unfortunately, we know none of those matches will likely have consequences past the G1 either
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Post by cero2k » Aug 12th, '15, 20:55

did my match. Styles, Naito, Tana, and Fale are all still alive on BA. Okada, Anderson, Goto, and Nakamura are alive in BB.

Karl Anderson, Hirooki Goto and Nakamura are at 12 Points. Okada is at 14 points with Nakamura facing Okada on the final night. If Nakamura wins, and Goto and Machine Gun win, there will be a 4-Way tie at 14 points.

Block A. Naito and Fale are at 10. Styles and Tana at 12. If Tana defeats Styles or vice-versa and Naito/Fale win, we're tied. i
m guessing Styles and Tana are going for the tie. So Styles vs Tana in a time limit draw. fck yes!
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Post by Big Red Machine » Aug 12th, '15, 22:20

cero2k wrote:did my match. Styles, Naito, Tana, and Fale are all still alive on BA. Okada, Anderson, Goto, and Nakamura are alive in BB.

Karl Anderson, Hirooki Goto and Nakamura are at 12 Points. Okada is at 14 points with Nakamura facing Okada on the final night. If Nakamura wins, and Goto and Machine Gun win, there will be a 4-Way tie at 14 points.

Block A. Naito and Fale are at 10. Styles and Tana at 12. If Tana defeats Styles or vice-versa and Naito/Fale win, we're tied. i
m guessing Styles and Tana are going for the tie. So Styles vs Tana in a time limit draw. fck yes!
You are forgetting tiebreakers.
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Post by cero2k » Aug 12th, '15, 22:58

Big Red Machine wrote:
cero2k wrote:did my match. Styles, Naito, Tana, and Fale are all still alive on BA. Okada, Anderson, Goto, and Nakamura are alive in BB.

Karl Anderson, Hirooki Goto and Nakamura are at 12 Points. Okada is at 14 points with Nakamura facing Okada on the final night. If Nakamura wins, and Goto and Machine Gun win, there will be a 4-Way tie at 14 points.

Block A. Naito and Fale are at 10. Styles and Tana at 12. If Tana defeats Styles or vice-versa and Naito/Fale win, we're tied. i
m guessing Styles and Tana are going for the tie. So Styles vs Tana in a time limit draw. fck yes!
You are forgetting tiebreakers.
just going by what the current points are and the final cards for the next two shows.
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Post by Big Red Machine » Aug 12th, '15, 23:02

Big Red Machine wrote:
cero2k wrote:did my match. Styles, Naito, Tana, and Fale are all still alive on BA. Okada, Anderson, Goto, and Nakamura are alive in BB.

Karl Anderson, Hirooki Goto and Nakamura are at 12 Points. Okada is at 14 points with Nakamura facing Okada on the final night. If Nakamura wins, and Goto and Machine Gun win, there will be a 4-Way tie at 14 points.

Block A. Naito and Fale are at 10. Styles and Tana at 12. If Tana defeats Styles or vice-versa and Naito/Fale win, we're tied. i
m guessing Styles and Tana are going for the tie. So Styles vs Tana in a time limit draw. fck yes!
You are forgetting tiebreakers.
In Block A it must be AJ or Tanahashi. For Naito to or Fale to win, AJ AND Tanahashi would both need to get no points, which is impossible because they are facing each other (a draw is 1 point).

In Block B I suppose it is possible for some sort of goofy three or four way tie if Goto and Anderson both win AND Nakamura beats Okada because everyone would have wins over the others and I have no idea how the tiebreakers would stack up in that situation.
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Re: Here's Who's Left

Post by cero2k » Aug 12th, '15, 23:08

Big Red Machine wrote: In Block A it must be AJ or Tanahashi. For Naito to or Fale to win, AJ AND Tanahashi would both need to get no points, which is impossible because they are facing each other (a draw is 1 point).

In Block B I suppose it is possible for some sort of goofy three or four way tie if Goto and Anderson both win AND Nakamura beats Okada because everyone would have wins over the others and I have no idea how the tiebreakers would stack up in that situation.
Block B is the interesting one. Goto is fighting Nagata and Anderson is fighting Kojima, both of the should kinda win those matches. We would just need Nakamura to win his match and since he's been kinda the favorite, i could see it happening
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Post by Big Red Machine » Aug 12th, '15, 23:11

cero2k wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote: In Block A it must be AJ or Tanahashi. For Naito to or Fale to win, AJ AND Tanahashi would both need to get no points, which is impossible because they are facing each other (a draw is 1 point).

In Block B I suppose it is possible for some sort of goofy three or four way tie if Goto and Anderson both win AND Nakamura beats Okada because everyone would have wins over the others and I have no idea how the tiebreakers would stack up in that situation.
Block B is the interesting one. Goto is fighting Nagata and Anderson is fighting Kojima, both of the should kinda win those matches. We would just need Nakamura to win his match and since he's been kinda the favorite, i could see it happening
Nakamura is definitely winning. With the way Block A is, an Okada victory would likely mean we'd almost have to wind up with Okada vs. AJ (again) or Okada vs. Tanahashi (again) at the Dome.
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Post by cero2k » Aug 12th, '15, 23:18

Big Red Machine wrote: Nakamura is definitely winning. With the way Block A is, an Okada victory would likely mean we'd almost have to wind up with Okada vs. AJ (again) or Okada vs. Tanahashi (again) at the Dome.
so what exactly happens is the champion wins G1? he chooses his contender?
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Post by Big Red Machine » Aug 12th, '15, 23:33

cero2k wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote: Nakamura is definitely winning. With the way Block A is, an Okada victory would likely mean we'd almost have to wind up with Okada vs. AJ (again) or Okada vs. Tanahashi (again) at the Dome.
so what exactly happens is the champion wins G1? he chooses his contender?
No idea. I'd guess he just has a rematch in the bank. He could theoretically lose it before the dome, but I don't see it happening. It's Okada. They're not going to give him such a short reign.
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Re: Here's Who's Left

Post by cero2k » Aug 13th, '15, 01:24

Big Red Machine wrote:
cero2k wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote: Nakamura is definitely winning. With the way Block A is, an Okada victory would likely mean we'd almost have to wind up with Okada vs. AJ (again) or Okada vs. Tanahashi (again) at the Dome.
so what exactly happens is the champion wins G1? he chooses his contender?
No idea. I'd guess he just has a rematch in the bank. He could theoretically lose it before the dome, but I don't see it happening. It's Okada. They're not going to give him such a short reign.
I guess he could technically go for the IC title
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Post by Big Red Machine » Aug 13th, '15, 10:21

cero2k wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote:
cero2k wrote: so what exactly happens is the champion wins G1? he chooses his contender?
No idea. I'd guess he just has a rematch in the bank. He could theoretically lose it before the dome, but I don't see it happening. It's Okada. They're not going to give him such a short reign.
I guess he could technically go for the IC title
There is that, too, but I don't see that happening because they wouldn't need the briefcase for it. Goto beat Okada, which should set up a title match itself, so if Okada retains by pinning Goto, then you can just use that to set the match up.
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