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Big Boss Man To be Inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame

Post by cero2k » Mar 7th, '16, 12:53

Source: pwtorch.com

“Big Boss Man” Ray Traylor will be inducted posthumously as part of the 2016 HOF class, CBS reported Monday.

Traylor died of a heart attack at the age of 41 in September 2004.

2016 WWE Hall of Fame Class

– Sting (inducted by Ric Flair)

– Fabulous Freebirds (inducted by Kevin Von Erich)

– The Godfather (inducted by APA – JBL & Ron Simmons)

– The Big Boss Man
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Re: Big Boss Man To be Inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame

Post by cero2k » Mar 7th, '16, 12:53

congrats to BadNewz and myself, our constant bickering got him in
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Re: Big Boss Man To be Inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame

Post by XIV » Mar 7th, '16, 13:02

Vince: "We need another inductee, who's dead and used to wrestle?"
Staff: "Big Bossman"
Vince: "He's in"

Sorry to speak ill of the dead, but he's not worthy and the hall of fame is massively going downhill.
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Re: Big Boss Man To be Inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame

Post by Big Red Machine » Mar 7th, '16, 14:07

XIV wrote:Vince: "We need another inductee, who's dead and used to wrestle?"
Staff: "Big Bossman"
Vince: "He's in"

Sorry to speak ill of the dead, but he's not worthy and the hall of fame is massively going downhill.
Yeah. There have been really lame inductees in the past, but between Bossman, Godfather, and the probably induction of Jacqueline, I think this will really be seen as the year that the Hall of Fame bit it. Even JBL is a weak name and shouldn't be in the HOF, and they're probably not even putting him in this year.
The past few years have had really big names that people were waiting so long for like Bruno, Savage, Warrior, Foley, Jake, Backlund... you could even throw Trish and Lita into that category in terms of their importance to their division... and this year, we've got Sting, the Freebirds, and a bunch of guys who barely even wreslled in the top half of the card at a WrestleMania or Starrcade.
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Re: Big Boss Man To be Inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame

Post by XIV » Mar 7th, '16, 16:01

Big Red Machine wrote:
XIV wrote:Vince: "We need another inductee, who's dead and used to wrestle?"
Staff: "Big Bossman"
Vince: "He's in"

Sorry to speak ill of the dead, but he's not worthy and the hall of fame is massively going downhill.
Yeah. There have been really lame inductees in the past, but between Bossman, Godfather, and the probably induction of Jacqueline, I think this will really be seen as the year that the Hall of Fame bit it. Even JBL is a weak name and shouldn't be in the HOF, and they're probably not even putting him in this year.
The past few years have had really big names that people were waiting so long for like Bruno, Savage, Warrior, Foley, Jake, Backlund... you could even throw Trish and Lita into that category in terms of their importance to their division... and this year, we've got Sting, the Freebirds, and a bunch of guys who barely even wreslled in the top half of the card at a WrestleMania or Starrcade.
Sting undoubtedly deserves the honour. An icon. A legend. And helped carry the NWA and WCW. No problems there, but because WWE like to put too many names in the hall each year, the stock was always going to fall. Sting aside, it's really fallen this year. I fully expect Val Venis, The Headbangers and Crash Holly in next year.
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Re: Big Boss Man To be Inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame

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XIV wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote:
XIV wrote:Vince: "We need another inductee, who's dead and used to wrestle?"
Staff: "Big Bossman"
Vince: "He's in"

Sorry to speak ill of the dead, but he's not worthy and the hall of fame is massively going downhill.
Yeah. There have been really lame inductees in the past, but between Bossman, Godfather, and the probably induction of Jacqueline, I think this will really be seen as the year that the Hall of Fame bit it. Even JBL is a weak name and shouldn't be in the HOF, and they're probably not even putting him in this year.
The past few years have had really big names that people were waiting so long for like Bruno, Savage, Warrior, Foley, Jake, Backlund... you could even throw Trish and Lita into that category in terms of their importance to their division... and this year, we've got Sting, the Freebirds, and a bunch of guys who barely even wreslled in the top half of the card at a WrestleMania or Starrcade.
Sting undoubtedly deserves the honour. An icon. A legend. And helped carry the NWA and WCW. No problems there, but because WWE like to put too many names in the hall each year, the stock was always going to fall. Sting aside, it's really fallen this year. I fully expect Val Venis, The Headbangers and Crash Holly in next year.
This right here is a major part of the problem. They have decided that they need to have seven or eight people each year, and then the add quotas for a certain number of living people and making sure they have one woman in every year for them to put bit players in the Hall of Fame and pretend that they are some sort of all-time legend (I think their quotas for one non-American/Canadian and one African-American/Canadian and one tag team are pretty achievable while still having worthy inductees, although tag teams might become an issue in a about a decade or so because WWE really hasn't created any new star tag teams in years). And, of course, these issues are compounded by WWE's own limitations in terms of ignoring the past that they don't own, internal politics and grudges, and not wanting to bring up people whose named are inevitably connected to drug-use stories with unhappy endings (looking at you, Miss Elizabeth), it only gets worse.
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Re: Big Boss Man To be Inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame

Post by cero2k » Mar 7th, '16, 17:37

like Bryan Alvarez said today, it's the WWE Hall of Fame, everyone deserves to be in it. We usually have the same discussion every year because one or another doesn't feel worthy, we've reached a point were it doesn't matter anymore
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Re: Big Boss Man To be Inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame

Post by Big Red Machine » Mar 7th, '16, 18:22

cero2k wrote:like Bryan Alvarez said today, it's the WWE Hall of Fame, everyone deserves to be in it. We usually have the same discussion every year because one or another doesn't feel worthy, we've reached a point were it doesn't matter anymore
This year is worse, though, because it's two of the first four announced... and they're not even guys who even close to the borderline like a JBL would be. They have a grand total of seven title reigns between them... and that includes four reigns of the Hardcore Title, ZERO world title reigns, and just one IC Title reign... and these were guys who spent a good deal of time in WWE in the 90's when titles were switched WAY too often. Even by Rikishi standards, they are unworthy. I could be wrong about this, but it's not impossible that they have a grand total of ZERO PPV main events (and possibly only one world title match on PPV).

Between them, they have a grant total of ONE world title match on PPV (excluding WW3 1995 and the 1992 Royal Rumble) which only went three minutes (Big Show vs. Bossman). If we include Saturday Night's Main Event, the number goes up to three. Total televised world title matches AT ALL only adds two more. One is Bossman getting a title shot on the first Nitro, and the other is Big Show defending the WWF World Heavyweight Title in a handicap match against the pairing of Bossman and ALBERT (back when he was still called "Prince Albert") which went a grand total of two minutes. Together, they have spent literally less than 36 minutes in televised world title matches.

This is beyond being unworthy and into downright Koko B. Ware territory.
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Re: Big Boss Man To be Inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame

Post by cero2k » Mar 7th, '16, 21:10

Big Red Machine wrote:
cero2k wrote:like Bryan Alvarez said today, it's the WWE Hall of Fame, everyone deserves to be in it. We usually have the same discussion every year because one or another doesn't feel worthy, we've reached a point were it doesn't matter anymore
This year is worse, though, because it's two of the first four announced... and they're not even guys who even close to the borderline like a JBL would be. They have a grand total of seven title reigns between them... and that includes four reigns of the Hardcore Title, ZERO world title reigns, and just one IC Title reign... and these were guys who spent a good deal of time in WWE in the 90's when titles were switched WAY too often. Even by Rikishi standards, they are unworthy. I could be wrong about this, but it's not impossible that they have a grand total of ZERO PPV main events (and possibly only one world title match on PPV).

Between them, they have a grant total of ONE world title match on PPV (excluding WW3 1995 and the 1992 Royal Rumble) which only went three minutes (Big Show vs. Bossman). If we include Saturday Night's Main Event, the number goes up to three. Total televised world title matches AT ALL only adds two more. One is Bossman getting a title shot on the first Nitro, and the other is Big Show defending the WWF World Heavyweight Title in a handicap match against the pairing of Bossman and ALBERT (back when he was still called "Prince Albert") which went a grand total of two minutes. Together, they have spent literally less than 36 minutes in televised world title matches.

This is beyond being unworthy and into downright Koko B. Ware territory.
You can't use title reigns to qualify worthiness of the HOF, that's how you get Khali and Swagger in the HOF, and i'm sorry, neither hold a candle to the Big Boss Man in terms of what they have done for the WWE and the business.
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Re: Big Boss Man To be Inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame

Post by Big Red Machine » Mar 7th, '16, 22:31

cero2k wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote:
cero2k wrote:like Bryan Alvarez said today, it's the WWE Hall of Fame, everyone deserves to be in it. We usually have the same discussion every year because one or another doesn't feel worthy, we've reached a point were it doesn't matter anymore
This year is worse, though, because it's two of the first four announced... and they're not even guys who even close to the borderline like a JBL would be. They have a grand total of seven title reigns between them... and that includes four reigns of the Hardcore Title, ZERO world title reigns, and just one IC Title reign... and these were guys who spent a good deal of time in WWE in the 90's when titles were switched WAY too often. Even by Rikishi standards, they are unworthy. I could be wrong about this, but it's not impossible that they have a grand total of ZERO PPV main events (and possibly only one world title match on PPV).

Between them, they have a grant total of ONE world title match on PPV (excluding WW3 1995 and the 1992 Royal Rumble) which only went three minutes (Big Show vs. Bossman). If we include Saturday Night's Main Event, the number goes up to three. Total televised world title matches AT ALL only adds two more. One is Bossman getting a title shot on the first Nitro, and the other is Big Show defending the WWF World Heavyweight Title in a handicap match against the pairing of Bossman and ALBERT (back when he was still called "Prince Albert") which went a grand total of two minutes. Together, they have spent literally less than 36 minutes in televised world title matches.

This is beyond being unworthy and into downright Koko B. Ware territory.
You can't use title reigns to qualify worthiness of the HOF, that's how you get Khali and Swagger in the HOF, and i'm sorry, neither hold a candle to the Big Boss Man in terms of what they have done for the WWE and the business.
I'm not saying anyone who holds a world title automatically gets in (I said earlier in this thread how I don't feel JBL belongs in). But I do think that if you weren't at some point a world champion, you need to have done a lot of other significant stuff. As just about everything else I said indicates, neither Bossman nor (especially) Godfather come anywhere close to this.
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Re: Big Boss Man To be Inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame

Post by XIV » Mar 9th, '16, 00:39

Big Red Machine wrote:
cero2k wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote: This year is worse, though, because it's two of the first four announced... and they're not even guys who even close to the borderline like a JBL would be. They have a grand total of seven title reigns between them... and that includes four reigns of the Hardcore Title, ZERO world title reigns, and just one IC Title reign... and these were guys who spent a good deal of time in WWE in the 90's when titles were switched WAY too often. Even by Rikishi standards, they are unworthy. I could be wrong about this, but it's not impossible that they have a grand total of ZERO PPV main events (and possibly only one world title match on PPV).

Between them, they have a grant total of ONE world title match on PPV (excluding WW3 1995 and the 1992 Royal Rumble) which only went three minutes (Big Show vs. Bossman). If we include Saturday Night's Main Event, the number goes up to three. Total televised world title matches AT ALL only adds two more. One is Bossman getting a title shot on the first Nitro, and the other is Big Show defending the WWF World Heavyweight Title in a handicap match against the pairing of Bossman and ALBERT (back when he was still called "Prince Albert") which went a grand total of two minutes. Together, they have spent literally less than 36 minutes in televised world title matches.

This is beyond being unworthy and into downright Koko B. Ware territory.
You can't use title reigns to qualify worthiness of the HOF, that's how you get Khali and Swagger in the HOF, and i'm sorry, neither hold a candle to the Big Boss Man in terms of what they have done for the WWE and the business.
I'm not saying anyone who holds a world title automatically gets in (I said earlier in this thread how I don't feel JBL belongs in). But I do think that if you weren't at some point a world champion, you need to have done a lot of other significant stuff. As just about everything else I said indicates, neither Bossman nor (especially) Godfather come anywhere close to this.

Whereas people like Piper and Jake Roberts did. They did so much other stuff and made such a a huge impact and in Piper's case he changed the promo world forever. So despite lacking World Titles, they definitely deserve to be in.
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