BRM Reviews TNA Slammiversary XIII

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TNA Slammiversary XIII (6/28/2015)- Orlando, FL

TRIPLE THREAT ELIMINATION MATCH FOR THE TNA X-DIVISION TITLE: Tigre Uno(c) vs. DJ Zema Ion vs. Manik- 6/10
What the f*ck is Zema Ion wearing? Manik also has new gear that looks much stupider than his old gear. Not a good streak to start the night out on. Phew. Tigre Uno broke the streak. As for the match itself: spots. Just… spots.

JB INTERVIEWS ROBBIE E.- good, but I really could have done without the chicken noises. This was supposed to be a serious promo.

JESSE GODDERZ vs. ROBBIE E.- 7/10
Jesse now has a black robe that says “the Man” on the back. He looks like the evil duke from a low-budget TV show set in the medieval age. He cut a pre-match promo that dragged on FOREVER.
Best match of both guy’s TNA careers. Jesse worked over Robbie’s back he was so great that I really feel like the wrong guy went over.

MATT HARDY PROMO- good

STREET FIGHT: Matt Morgan vs. Bram- 4.75/10
They hit each other with stuff. It wasn’t very entertaining. Actually, the most entertaining bit in this match involved Bram going to the outside to try to find a weapon. He looked under the apron on one side and apparently couldn’t find anything even though there was a trash can lid right there. Then he looked on two other sides off the ring and still couldn’t find anything so he got into the ring and picked up a steel chair… then dropped it again to go look for a weapon on a fourth side of the ring… and he STILL couldn’t find what he was looking for, so he just grabbed a second chair. He looked like a complete and total idiot.
Josh Matthews claimed that Bram as 6’9”. No way is that close to true.

EC III & TYRUS PROMO- eh.

WINNER GETS TO CHOSE THE STIPD FOR THE FIFTH MATCH IN THE TAG TITLE SERIES: Austin Aries vs. Davey Richards- 8/10
An awesome match that would have been even better with a clean finish. And really… why would you put Aries over in this match if he is leaving the company and it doesn’t matter who wins because the stip that Aries picked, an Iron Man match (or really an Iron Team match, I guess) would make sense coming from either team.

ERIC YOUNG PROMO- eh.

TARYN PROMO- she cut a promo on PPV to hype up a match on free TV. TNA logic.

HANDICAP MATCH: The Dollhouse vs. Awesome Kong & Brooke- DUD!
Marti did this atrocious running splash in which she fell maybe a foot and wound up hitting the move on her own partner… and this apparently knocked her out. It looked so stupid. Taryn realized how dumb this looked as well because she was screaming for Marti to “get up! Get up! Get up! Get up! GET UP!” Or maybe she was just trying to warn her about Kong.
Aside from this and some other similar silliness, the heels got almost no offense in and came off like a bunch of complete and total chumps (Marti and Jade especially).

MAGNUS PROMO- bad.
First he came out and told everyone that this was his and Storm’s last match in the company. Then he cut a promo about how he doesn’t hate Storm even though Storm tried to first take his wife and child, and when that didn’t work, he tried to murder his wife and pretended to abduct his son. And why doesn’t he hate Storm? “Because I have to believe that love is stronger than hate!” WHAT?! Where did this love vs. hate, don’t give in to the Dark Side of the Force crap come from?!

UNSANCTIONED MATCH: James Storm vs. Magnus- 8.25/10
If this match is “unsanctioned” then why is it happening on a TNA PPV? Of all the synonyms for “No Disqualification Match” in the world, why would you use one that makes NO SENSE? Because this is TNA. That’s why.
“KILL THE COWBOY!” chants! It’s like I’m back in 2006 again and AMW is fresh off of their big heel turn! I love it! And there’s the slingshot into the underside of a table spot from Storm and Harris’ famous match at Sacrifice 2007 that made whoever took it bleed like a stuck pig.. This is turning into quite the fun trip down memory lane.
In one of the most ill-conceived spots I have ever seen in my life, they brawled over to the side of the stage and behind a bunch of big pieces of equipment while some dude frantically warned them of the “high voltage.” Then they did a spot where one guy went to kick the other, but missed and instead knocked over a piece of equipment causing the big screen to go to a color test pattern. Obviously the fans, who now couldn’t see the action because the big screen wasn’t working, started to boo.
F*cking Hebner is yelling at Storm for using powder IN AN UNSANCTIONED FIGHT! This stupidity resulted in Storm being distracted to Magnus could knock the fist-ful of powder into both Storm and Hebner’s eyes… because this is TNA and thus we needed to have a REF BUMP in our UNSANCTIONED FIGHT.
I utterly HATED the double beer-bottle spot as a finish, and I hated the “one guy falls on top of the other” spot for the finish because it makes the feud feel unfinished, which isn’t good for both guys’ last match with the company. That being said, with the exception of the few hiccups I mentioned this was quite the awesome grudge match that really made you feel the hate. These guys knew they were wrestling in the Impact Zone for what might well be the last time, and they decided to leave everything they had out there in the ring they had fought in so many times before.

DREW GALLOWAY PROMO- he first builds up “the final battle” between the BDC and The Rising, so that feud is finally ending. Hooray!
Once he got past that part and started to talk about tonight’s main event, he was totally awesome.

And now the audio is out. Now it’s cutting in and out.
Now we’re just watching people sweep the ring. Now there is absolutely nothing going on. Well… this is boring. Well… that was a waste of five minutes. F*ck the audio and just get me a damn match in the ring!

ETHAN CARTER III & TYRUS vs. BOBBY LASHLEY & KEN ANDERSON- 5.25/10
Josh is talking about how the TNA officials like to “let the guys go” and be loose with the rules… and all I can think about is how no more than fifteen minutes ago, I was watching a referee yell at a man for trying to use powder in an UNSANCTIONED MATCH.
A filler match in which, for some reason, they decided to pin LASHLEY instead of Ken Anderson.

JEFF & KAREN JARRETT PROMO- decent. He says that if he wins the title, he’ll take it to GFW.

KING OF THE MOUNTAIN MATCH TO CROWN THE FIRST EVER TNA KING OF THE MOUNTAIN TITLE: Bobby Roode vs. Drew Galloway Eric Young vs. Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Jarrett (w/Karen Jarrett)- 7.75/10
King of the Mountain 2015: Jeff Jarrett vs. The World.
The story here was that Jeff was the ultimate babyface, getting screwed and conspired against and taking the scariest looking bumps, all with his lovely wife at ringside to offer moral support. Don’t get me wrong: they told the story well, but it seemed to be at odds with this “invader” narrative that the announcers were trying to play up.

Overall, a good show from TNA. In fact, this is likely TNA’s best PPV in YEARS. Definitely worth checking out, especially if you skip the filler.

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WINNER GETS TO CHOSE THE STIPD FOR THE FIFTH MATCH IN THE TAG TITLE SERIES: Austin Aries vs. Davey Richards- 8/10
An awesome match that would have been even better with a clean finish. And really… why would you put Aries over in this match if he is leaving the company and it doesn’t matter who wins because the stip that Aries picked, an Iron Man match (or really an Iron Team match, I guess) would make sense coming from either team.
if I had to speculate, i'm sure TNA was sucking up to Aries for him to stay. I really didn't mind him winning since i'm assuming that the wolves take the title anyway in what will actually be Aries' last match

TARYN PROMO- she cut a promo on PPV to hype up a match on free TV. TNA logic.
WWE uses a title match on Smackdown to promote a normal tag match in a PPV, it seems to be a trend

HANDICAP MATCH: The Dollhouse vs. Awesome Kong & Brooke- DUD!
Marti did this atrocious running splash in which she fell maybe a foot and wound up hitting the move on her own partner… and this apparently knocked her out. It looked so stupid. Taryn realized how dumb this looked as well because she was screaming for Marti to “get up! Get up! Get up! Get up! GET UP!” Or maybe she was just trying to warn her about Kong.
Aside from this and some other similar silliness, the heels got almost no offense in and came off like a bunch of complete and total chumps (Marti and Jade especiallyONLY).
Taryn never got beat up, she's still strong. And to some point, that's what the dollhouse is there for, to beat up the champ's stable, but not the champ, they're Taryn's J&M Security


UNSANCTIONED MATCH: James Storm vs. Magnus- 8.25/10
If this match is “unsanctioned” then why is it happening on a TNA PPV? Of all the synonyms for “No Disqualification Match” in the world, why would you use one that makes NO SENSE? Because this is TNA. That’s why.
“KILL THE COWBOY!” chants! It’s like I’m back in 2006 again and AMW is fresh off of their big heel turn! I love it! And there’s the slingshot into the underside of a table spot from Storm and Harris’ famous match at Sacrifice 2007 that made whoever took it bleed like a stuck pig.. This is turning into quite the fun trip down memory lane.
In one of the most ill-conceived spots I have ever seen in my life, they brawled over to the side of the stage and behind a bunch of big pieces of equipment while some dude frantically warned them of the “high voltage.” Then they did a spot where one guy went to kick the other, but missed and instead knocked over a piece of equipment causing the big screen to go to a color test pattern. Obviously the fans, who now couldn’t see the action because the big screen wasn’t working, started to boo.
F*cking Hebner is yelling at Storm for using powder IN AN UNSANCTIONED FIGHT! This stupidity resulted in Storm being distracted to Magnus could knock the fist-ful of powder into both Storm and Hebner’s eyes… because this is TNA and thus we needed to have a REF BUMP in our UNSANCTIONED FIGHT.
There's nothing wrong with a ref bump in an unsanctioned match or any hardcore match for that matter, they didn't use it to cheat, just to give us a near fall

And now the audio is out. Now it’s cutting in and out.
Now we’re just watching people sweep the ring. Now there is absolutely nothing going on. Well… this is boring. Well… that was a waste of five minutes. F*ck the audio and just get me a damn match in the ring!
We don't have Divas or Uso matches in TNA and we all needed a piss break

ETHAN CARTER III & TYRUS vs. BOBBY LASHLEY & KEN ANDERSON- 5.25/10
Josh is talking about how the TNA officials like to “let the guys go” and be loose with the rules… and all I can think about is how no more than fifteen minutes ago, I was watching a referee yell at a man for trying to use powder in an UNSANCTIONED MATCH.
A filler match in which, for some reason, they decided to pin LASHLEY instead of Ken Anderson.
And that's why you don't wear Bellator stuff to a TNA show

KING OF THE MOUNTAIN MATCH TO CROWN THE FIRST EVER TNA KING OF THE MOUNTAIN TITLE: Bobby Roode vs. Drew Galloway Eric Young vs. Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Jarrett (w/Karen Jarrett)- 7.75/10
King of the Mountain 2015: Jeff Jarrett vs. The World.
The story here was that Jeff was the ultimate babyface, getting screwed and conspired against and taking the scariest looking bumps, all with his lovely wife at ringside to offer moral support. Don’t get me wrong: they told the story well, but it seemed to be at odds with this “invader” narrative that the announcers were trying to play up.
I loved the story, it worked nicely Jeff being the old dude that may just be too old to hang with the younger kids, I would have loved some younger guys instead of Young and Hardy, some flippy shit to make it seem like Jeff doesn't know what he's doing there. I blame Josh for his constant tweening, i wasn't sure if he was bitching as a face or heel

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WINNER GETS TO CHOSE THE STIPD FOR THE FIFTH MATCH IN THE TAG TITLE SERIES: Austin Aries vs. Davey Richards- 8/10
An awesome match that would have been even better with a clean finish. And really… why would you put Aries over in this match if he is leaving the company and it doesn’t matter who wins because the stip that Aries picked, an Iron Man match (or really an Iron Team match, I guess) would make sense coming from either team.
if I had to speculate, i'm sure TNA was sucking up to Aries for him to stay. I really didn't mind him winning since i'm assuming that the wolves take the title anyway in what will actually be Aries' last match

Hidden text.

they had already taped him losing a Loser Leaves Town match

TARYN PROMO- she cut a promo on PPV to hype up a match on free TV. TNA logic.
WWE uses a title match on Smackdown to promote a normal tag match in a PPV, it seems to be a trend
But at least WWE is actually hyping up a match on PPV, which makes money.

HANDICAP MATCH: The Dollhouse vs. Awesome Kong & Brooke- DUD!
Marti did this atrocious running splash in which she fell maybe a foot and wound up hitting the move on her own partner… and this apparently knocked her out. It looked so stupid. Taryn realized how dumb this looked as well because she was screaming for Marti to “get up! Get up! Get up! Get up! GET UP!” Or maybe she was just trying to warn her about Kong.
Aside from this and some other similar silliness, the heels got almost no offense in and came off like a bunch of complete and total chumps (Marti and Jade especiallyONLY).
Taryn never got beat up, she's still strong. And to some point, that's what the dollhouse is there for, to beat up the champ's stable, but not the champ, they're Taryn's J&M Security
It'd be nice if they (especially Jade) could actually look credible. And it wouldn't have been so bad if not for some of the bad spots.

UNSANCTIONED MATCH: James Storm vs. Magnus- 8.25/10
If this match is “unsanctioned” then why is it happening on a TNA PPV? Of all the synonyms for “No Disqualification Match” in the world, why would you use one that makes NO SENSE? Because this is TNA. That’s why.
“KILL THE COWBOY!” chants! It’s like I’m back in 2006 again and AMW is fresh off of their big heel turn! I love it! And there’s the slingshot into the underside of a table spot from Storm and Harris’ famous match at Sacrifice 2007 that made whoever took it bleed like a stuck pig.. This is turning into quite the fun trip down memory lane.
In one of the most ill-conceived spots I have ever seen in my life, they brawled over to the side of the stage and behind a bunch of big pieces of equipment while some dude frantically warned them of the “high voltage.” Then they did a spot where one guy went to kick the other, but missed and instead knocked over a piece of equipment causing the big screen to go to a color test pattern. Obviously the fans, who now couldn’t see the action because the big screen wasn’t working, started to boo.
F*cking Hebner is yelling at Storm for using powder IN AN UNSANCTIONED FIGHT! This stupidity resulted in Storm being distracted to Magnus could knock the fist-ful of powder into both Storm and Hebner’s eyes… because this is TNA and thus we needed to have a REF BUMP in our UNSANCTIONED FIGHT.
There's nothing wrong with a ref bump in an unsanctioned match or any hardcore match for that matter, they didn't use it to cheat, just to give us a near fall
No. They used it to give us a visual pin which will never be followed up on. It did nothing for the match and just annoyed me because it's so TNA.

And now the audio is out. Now it’s cutting in and out.
Now we’re just watching people sweep the ring. Now there is absolutely nothing going on. Well… this is boring. Well… that was a waste of five minutes. F*ck the audio and just get me a damn match in the ring!
We don't have Divas or Uso matches in TNA and we all needed a piss break
Clearly you're not a real wrestling fan because REAL wrestling fans just whip it out and go in a bottle and then flush it after the show is over!
Or just his cause on the DVR

KING OF THE MOUNTAIN MATCH TO CROWN THE FIRST EVER TNA KING OF THE MOUNTAIN TITLE: Bobby Roode vs. Drew Galloway Eric Young vs. Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Jarrett (w/Karen Jarrett)- 7.75/10
King of the Mountain 2015: Jeff Jarrett vs. The World.
The story here was that Jeff was the ultimate babyface, getting screwed and conspired against and taking the scariest looking bumps, all with his lovely wife at ringside to offer moral support. Don’t get me wrong: they told the story well, but it seemed to be at odds with this “invader” narrative that the announcers were trying to play up.
I loved the story, it worked nicely Jeff being the old dude that may just be too old to hang with the younger kids, I would have loved some younger guys instead of Young and Hardy, some flippy shit to make it seem like Jeff doesn't know what he's doing there. I blame Josh for his constant tweening, i wasn't sure if he was bitching as a face or heel
Agreed about Josh.

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WINNER GETS TO CHOSE THE STIPD FOR THE FIFTH MATCH IN THE TAG TITLE SERIES: Austin Aries vs. Davey Richards- 8/10
An awesome match that would have been even better with a clean finish. And really… why would you put Aries over in this match if he is leaving the company and it doesn’t matter who wins because the stip that Aries picked, an Iron Man match (or really an Iron Team match, I guess) would make sense coming from either team.
if I had to speculate, i'm sure TNA was sucking up to Aries for him to stay. I really didn't mind him winning since i'm assuming that the wolves take the title anyway in what will actually be Aries' last match

Hidden text.

they had already taped him losing a Loser Leaves Town match

tapings don't matter if they haven't aired. Air time is what matters, this was pissing me off so bad from Bryan Alvarez yesterday. Yeah, one show has someone with a title that already lost it in some tapings that only a select few get to see and that I wouldn't have know if he hadn't spoiled me. I hope that Aries match makes sense though.

TARYN PROMO- she cut a promo on PPV to hype up a match on free TV. TNA logic.
WWE uses a title match on Smackdown to promote a normal tag match in a PPV, it seems to be a trend
But at least WWE is actually hyping up a match on PPV, which makes money.
a WWE PPV has never made money out of a divas match, never. Plus Taryn is trying to gain ratings in this case.

HANDICAP MATCH: The Dollhouse vs. Awesome Kong & Brooke- DUD!
Marti did this atrocious running splash in which she fell maybe a foot and wound up hitting the move on her own partner… and this apparently knocked her out. It looked so stupid. Taryn realized how dumb this looked as well because she was screaming for Marti to “get up! Get up! Get up! Get up! GET UP!” Or maybe she was just trying to warn her about Kong.
Aside from this and some other similar silliness, the heels got almost no offense in and came off like a bunch of complete and total chumps (Marti and Jade especiallyONLY).
Taryn never got beat up, she's still strong. And to some point, that's what the dollhouse is there for, to beat up the champ's stable, but not the champ, they're Taryn's J&M Security
It'd be nice if they (especially Jade) could actually look credible. And it wouldn't have been so bad if not for some of the bad spots.
I'm sure if she ever decide to stay with the company and goes solo, she'll get a stronger book

UNSANCTIONED MATCH: James Storm vs. Magnus- 8.25/10
If this match is “unsanctioned” then why is it happening on a TNA PPV? Of all the synonyms for “No Disqualification Match” in the world, why would you use one that makes NO SENSE? Because this is TNA. That’s why.
“KILL THE COWBOY!” chants! It’s like I’m back in 2006 again and AMW is fresh off of their big heel turn! I love it! And there’s the slingshot into the underside of a table spot from Storm and Harris’ famous match at Sacrifice 2007 that made whoever took it bleed like a stuck pig.. This is turning into quite the fun trip down memory lane.
In one of the most ill-conceived spots I have ever seen in my life, they brawled over to the side of the stage and behind a bunch of big pieces of equipment while some dude frantically warned them of the “high voltage.” Then they did a spot where one guy went to kick the other, but missed and instead knocked over a piece of equipment causing the big screen to go to a color test pattern. Obviously the fans, who now couldn’t see the action because the big screen wasn’t working, started to boo.
F*cking Hebner is yelling at Storm for using powder IN AN UNSANCTIONED FIGHT! This stupidity resulted in Storm being distracted to Magnus could knock the fist-ful of powder into both Storm and Hebner’s eyes… because this is TNA and thus we needed to have a REF BUMP in our UNSANCTIONED FIGHT.
There's nothing wrong with a ref bump in an unsanctioned match or any hardcore match for that matter, they didn't use it to cheat, just to give us a near fall
No. They used it to give us a visual pin which will never be followed up on. It did nothing for the match and just annoyed me because it's so TNA.
it steals a win from the babyface who later lost, so we leave knowing that Magnus was the better man and only lost because of technicality and Storm leaves with a win, both leave strong. I'll take this any day of the week rather than a dumb henchmen interference

And now the audio is out. Now it’s cutting in and out.
Now we’re just watching people sweep the ring. Now there is absolutely nothing going on. Well… this is boring. Well… that was a waste of five minutes. F*ck the audio and just get me a damn match in the ring!
We don't have Divas or Uso matches in TNA and we all needed a piss break
Clearly you're not a real wrestling fan because REAL wrestling fans just whip it out and go in a bottle and then flush it after the show is over!
Or just his cause on the DVR
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WINNER GETS TO CHOSE THE STIPD FOR THE FIFTH MATCH IN THE TAG TITLE SERIES: Austin Aries vs. Davey Richards- 8/10
An awesome match that would have been even better with a clean finish. And really… why would you put Aries over in this match if he is leaving the company and it doesn’t matter who wins because the stip that Aries picked, an Iron Man match (or really an Iron Team match, I guess) would make sense coming from either team.
if I had to speculate, i'm sure TNA was sucking up to Aries for him to stay. I really didn't mind him winning since i'm assuming that the wolves take the title anyway in what will actually be Aries' last match

Hidden text.

they had already taped him losing a Loser Leaves Town match

tapings don't matter if they haven't aired. Air time is what matters, this was pissing me off so bad from Bryan Alvarez yesterday. Yeah, one show has someone with a title that already lost it in some tapings that only a select few get to see and that I wouldn't have know if he hadn't spoiled me. I hope that Aries match makes sense though.

Hidden text.

My point is that they had taped a Loser Leaves Town match in which he lost, which indicates that they knew they weren't going to be using him again before Slammiversary went on the air... so why put him over a guy who is staying (and who is going to be one of your tag champs?)

TARYN PROMO- she cut a promo on PPV to hype up a match on free TV. TNA logic.
WWE uses a title match on Smackdown to promote a normal tag match in a PPV, it seems to be a trend
But at least WWE is actually hyping up a match on PPV, which makes money.
a WWE PPV has never made money out of a divas match, never. Plus Taryn is trying to gain ratings in this case.
But at least the theory is there. Imagine two years in the future when Charlotte and Sasha and Becky actually will be able to influence buyrates. Then it actually will matter and WWE will be doing it right. Given the same situation, TNA would still be doing it wrong and making no money.
And is Taryn's promo here really getting ratings? Who is going to see this promo? The people who bought the PPV... who probably already watch TV every week.

HANDICAP MATCH: The Dollhouse vs. Awesome Kong & Brooke- DUD!
Marti did this atrocious running splash in which she fell maybe a foot and wound up hitting the move on her own partner… and this apparently knocked her out. It looked so stupid. Taryn realized how dumb this looked as well because she was screaming for Marti to “get up! Get up! Get up! Get up! GET UP!” Or maybe she was just trying to warn her about Kong.
Aside from this and some other similar silliness, the heels got almost no offense in and came off like a bunch of complete and total chumps (Marti and Jade especiallyONLY).
Taryn never got beat up, she's still strong. And to some point, that's what the dollhouse is there for, to beat up the champ's stable, but not the champ, they're Taryn's J&M Security
It'd be nice if they (especially Jade) could actually look credible. And it wouldn't have been so bad if not for some of the bad spots.
I'm sure if she ever decide to stay with the company and goes solo, she'll get a stronger book
It's going to be difficult after being made to look like a chump so much.

UNSANCTIONED MATCH: James Storm vs. Magnus- 8.25/10
If this match is “unsanctioned” then why is it happening on a TNA PPV? Of all the synonyms for “No Disqualification Match” in the world, why would you use one that makes NO SENSE? Because this is TNA. That’s why.
“KILL THE COWBOY!” chants! It’s like I’m back in 2006 again and AMW is fresh off of their big heel turn! I love it! And there’s the slingshot into the underside of a table spot from Storm and Harris’ famous match at Sacrifice 2007 that made whoever took it bleed like a stuck pig.. This is turning into quite the fun trip down memory lane.
In one of the most ill-conceived spots I have ever seen in my life, they brawled over to the side of the stage and behind a bunch of big pieces of equipment while some dude frantically warned them of the “high voltage.” Then they did a spot where one guy went to kick the other, but missed and instead knocked over a piece of equipment causing the big screen to go to a color test pattern. Obviously the fans, who now couldn’t see the action because the big screen wasn’t working, started to boo.
F*cking Hebner is yelling at Storm for using powder IN AN UNSANCTIONED FIGHT! This stupidity resulted in Storm being distracted to Magnus could knock the fist-ful of powder into both Storm and Hebner’s eyes… because this is TNA and thus we needed to have a REF BUMP in our UNSANCTIONED FIGHT.
There's nothing wrong with a ref bump in an unsanctioned match or any hardcore match for that matter, they didn't use it to cheat, just to give us a near fall
No. They used it to give us a visual pin which will never be followed up on. It did nothing for the match and just annoyed me because it's so TNA.
it steals a win from the babyface who later lost, so we leave knowing that Magnus was the better man and only lost because of technicality and Storm leaves with a win, both leave strong. I'll take this any day of the week rather than a dumb henchmen interference
I'd have much rather had the henchmen interfere and have Magnus fight them off. If they're so concerned about us fans knowing that Magnus was the better man, then PUT HIM OVER. He's the babyface!

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tapings don't matter if they haven't aired. Air time is what matters, this was pissing me off so bad from Bryan Alvarez yesterday. Yeah, one show has someone with a title that already lost it in some tapings that only a select few get to see and that I wouldn't have know if he hadn't spoiled me. I hope that Aries match makes sense though.

I think Bryan's point was that the fans in the building are likely the same people, so they already know who will win because they were at yesterday's tapings.

I definitely agree that Bryan and Dave (and everyone who does the front page up updates on that website) need to be A LOT more careful about blurting out spoilers.

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tapings don't matter if they haven't aired. Air time is what matters, this was pissing me off so bad from Bryan Alvarez yesterday. Yeah, one show has someone with a title that already lost it in some tapings that only a select few get to see and that I wouldn't have know if he hadn't spoiled me. I hope that Aries match makes sense though.

Hidden text.

My point is that they had taped a Loser Leaves Town match in which he lost, which indicates that they knew they weren't going to be using him again before Slammiversary went on the air... so why put him over a guy who is staying (and who is going to be one of your tag champs?)

they don't have to air that match necessarily, it could had been a security blanket


a WWE PPV has never made money out of a divas match, never. Plus Taryn is trying to gain ratings in this case.
But at least the theory is there. Imagine two years in the future when Charlotte and Sasha and Becky actually will be able to influence buyrates. Then it actually will matter and WWE will be doing it right. Given the same situation, TNA would still be doing it wrong and making no money.
And is Taryn's promo here really getting ratings? Who is going to see this promo? The people who bought the PPV... who probably already watch TV every week.
it's like we talked before, TNA is trying to sell ratings right now over PPV buys.


I'm sure if she ever decide to stay with the company and goes solo, she'll get a stronger book
It's going to be difficult after being made to look like a chump so much.
it worked for Eric Young or Spud. It's possible, especially once they allow her to go full Mia Yim, queen of kicks


it steals a win from the babyface who later lost, so we leave knowing that Magnus was the better man and only lost because of technicality and Storm leaves with a win, both leave strong. I'll take this any day of the week rather than a dumb henchmen interference
I'd have much rather had the henchmen interfere and have Magnus fight them off. If they're so concerned about us fans knowing that Magnus was the better man, then PUT HIM OVER. He's the babyface!
but then only one man leaves strong, the rest completely decimated. We don't know what will happen to the Revolution without Storm, maybe all of them losing to a single brit that is leaving the company is not that good idea either

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tapings don't matter if they haven't aired. Air time is what matters, this was pissing me off so bad from Bryan Alvarez yesterday. Yeah, one show has someone with a title that already lost it in some tapings that only a select few get to see and that I wouldn't have know if he hadn't spoiled me. I hope that Aries match makes sense though.

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My point is that they had taped a Loser Leaves Town match in which he lost, which indicates that they knew they weren't going to be using him again before Slammiversary went on the air... so why put him over a guy who is staying (and who is going to be one of your tag champs?)

they don't have to air that match necessarily, it could had been a security blanket
I guess. It just seems really weird to me.

a WWE PPV has never made money out of a divas match, never. Plus Taryn is trying to gain ratings in this case.
But at least the theory is there. Imagine two years in the future when Charlotte and Sasha and Becky actually will be able to influence buyrates. Then it actually will matter and WWE will be doing it right. Given the same situation, TNA would still be doing it wrong and making no money.
And is Taryn's promo here really getting ratings? Who is going to see this promo? The people who bought the PPV... who probably already watch TV every week.
it's like we talked before, TNA is trying to sell ratings right now over PPV buys.
But as I said: How does cutting a promo on a PPV, which only the most die-hard of the die-hard are going to watch, help you increase your ratings? The people seeing this promo will already be watching the TV show anyway/

I'm sure if she ever decide to stay with the company and goes solo, she'll get a stronger book
It's going to be difficult after being made to look like a chump so much.
it worked for Eric Young or Spud. It's possible, especially once they allow her to go full Mia Yim, queen of kicks
I'd disagree that it has worked for EY, and Spud took A LOT of build. It seems to me that it'd just be easier to book her as a credible threat from the beginning.


it steals a win from the babyface who later lost, so we leave knowing that Magnus was the better man and only lost because of technicality and Storm leaves with a win, both leave strong. I'll take this any day of the week rather than a dumb henchmen interference
I'd have much rather had the henchmen interfere and have Magnus fight them off. If they're so concerned about us fans knowing that Magnus was the better man, then PUT HIM OVER. He's the babyface!
but then only one man leaves strong, the rest completely decimated. We don't know what will happen to the Revolution without Storm, maybe all of them losing to a single brit that is leaving the company is not that good idea either
But with the finish the way they did it, then no one leaves strong. I get your point about the Revolution looking weak if one guy beats them all up, but then just do a segment earlier where Storm wants them to stay in the back. There's no reason to do a stupid ref bump and a visual pin in this match. It just makes people roll their eyes.

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But as I said: How does cutting a promo on a PPV, which only the most die-hard of the die-hard are going to watch, help you increase your ratings? The people seeing this promo will already be watching the TV show anyway/
Jeff Jarrett and buzz, not only die hard fans watch the show, I can see a LOT of people watching the show just to see what's up with Jeff and GFW. And realistically, not a lot of people payed for the PPV, but they sure as hell watched it, those are not die hard fans, but maybe just fans that have nothing to do

I'd disagree that it has worked for EY, and Spud took A LOT of build. It seems to me that it'd just be easier to book her as a credible threat from the beginning.
I just compare the women tag champ Young to this new credible title contender Young and I would say it worked. I'm not saying that Jade will be a badass with the snap of the fingers, but she can definitely get turned around. I'd say it only takes to stop talking like a 8yr old and a credible match with Gail or someone at her level and she will be good to go. They made Taryn work, Mia should be easier.

But with the finish the way they did it, then no one leaves strong. I get your point about the Revolution looking weak if one guy beats them all up, but then just do a segment earlier where Storm wants them to stay in the back. There's no reason to do a stupid ref bump and a visual pin in this match. It just makes people roll their eyes.
They leave equally strong, which now knowing the card for wednesday, it makes sense that they want to keep it as balanced as possible since it wasn't actually the end of the feud. And now that i think about it, it's smart, MJ needs to get back on Storm, not necessarily Magnus at this point

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But as I said: How does cutting a promo on a PPV, which only the most die-hard of the die-hard are going to watch, help you increase your ratings? The people seeing this promo will already be watching the TV show anyway/
Jeff Jarrett and buzz, not only die hard fans watch the show, I can see a LOT of people watching the show just to see what's up with Jeff and GFW. And realistically, not a lot of people payed for the PPV, but they sure as hell watched it, those are not die hard fans, but maybe just fans that have nothing to do

I'd disagree that it has worked for EY, and Spud took A LOT of build. It seems to me that it'd just be easier to book her as a credible threat from the beginning.
I just compare the women tag champ Young to this new credible title contender Young and I would say it worked. I'm not saying that Jade will be a badass with the snap of the fingers, but she can definitely get turned around. I'd say it only takes to stop talking like a 8yr old and a credible match with Gail or someone at her level and she will be good to go. They made Taryn work, Mia should be easier.

But with the finish the way they did it, then no one leaves strong. I get your point about the Revolution looking weak if one guy beats them all up, but then just do a segment earlier where Storm wants them to stay in the back. There's no reason to do a stupid ref bump and a visual pin in this match. It just makes people roll their eyes.
They leave equally strong, which now knowing the card for wednesday, it makes sense that they want to keep it as balanced as possible since it wasn't actually the end of the feud. And now that i think about it, it's smart, MJ needs to get back on Storm, not necessarily Magnus at this point
To me they came across as equally weak rather than equally strong. If they wanted Mickie to get revenge on Storm, this was the place to do it. Bringing Deeb in seems like the sort of thing Storm would do to attack Mickie, which is the sort of thing you would have happen after a Magnus win.