BRM Reviews the 6/17/2015 TNA (bad)

[Big Red Machine]

CONTRACT SIGNING FOR THE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE MATCH-
Didn’t I just watch one of these?
Mike Tenay sighting.
No table? Wow. Those TNA budget cuts must be worse than I thought.

I hated Ethan’s promo. It just came off like a speech. It would have been so much better if he had actually NAMED all of these legends rather than spouting off nicknames. When he said “Ayatolahs” I found myself wondering when Kurt had wrestled the Iron Sheik until it hit me that he meant Jericho. Kurt’s promo also wasn’t very good.

WOLVES & BOBBY ROODE SEGMENT- Davey was great. Eddie was fine. Roode said Aries wasn’t here so they couldn’t have the next match in their series tonight. Eddie wanted to fight Roode, so Roode said “how about the winner gets to pick the stip for the next match” and the Wolves agreed.

WINNER GETS TO PICK THE STIP FOR THE NEXT MATCH IN THE TAG TITLE SERIES: Bobby Roode vs. Eddie Edwards (w/Davey Richards)- 6.5/10
Huh. Didn’t see the Wolves win coming. I’m not sure what the point of The Wolves winning here was, though. It makes the Dirty Heels’ cheating seem kind of impotent. Either way, the next match will be Full Metal Mayhem.

LASHLEY VIDEO PACKAGE- didn’t like it. I think it was the words “devastating finishing move” that took me out of it.

JOSEPH PARK SHOWS UP- WHY? Why would you ever use this character again? It just opens up SOOOO many questions. For starters: “Why is Abyss being Joseph again?” What happened to make him make this drastic shift? Hasn’t be been hanging out with James Storm recently? What does James think of all of this?
Good wrestling companies try to avoid doing things that would open up a can of worms. TNA sees the can of worms on its shelf and says “YUMMY!”

BRAM PUNCHES A CAMERA FOR NO REASON- okay…

BRAM vs. JOSEPH PARK- DUD!
In fact, neither JB nor the announcers seem to remember that Joseph Park is Abyss. How do they not remember this? He even has Abyss’ scraggly beard! IT’S BARELY BEEN A YEAR SINCE HE WENT BACK TO BEING ABYSS! HOW THE F*CK ARE THESE PEOPLE THIS F*CKING STUPID?!
So the referee tells Joseph he can’t use a chair and yells at Bram for getting weapons, but doesn’t call a DQ when Joseph hits Bram in the nuts, or when he hits Bram with a Kendo Stick. Apparently Josh was having the same thoughts that I was, so he claimed that “Bram has requested that all of his matches where he calls out past members of the Impact roster are competed under no disqualifications rules.” Okay… then why didn’t you mention that at the beginning of the match? And why did Hebner try to stop him from using the chair earlier?

TARYN TERRELL PROMO- they shot this from a very weird angle presumably just to bother me.
Taryn proposes the following…

IF BROOKE AND KONG WIN, THEY BOTH GET TITLE SHOTS, BUT IF THEY LOSE, THEY CAN’T GET ANY TITLES SHOTS WHILE TARYN IS CHAMP: Brooke Tessmacher & Awesome Kong vs. The Dollhouse (w/Taryn Terrell)- 4.5/10
I MUST have more of Taryn excitedly bouncing up and down!
On commentary, Josh tells us that as of midnight, Taryn will break Gail’s record for longest title reign. WHAT THE HELL, TNA?! HOW THE F*CK DID YOU NOT BOOK GAIL VS. TARYN FOR THE TITLE FOR TONIGHT?!

“PLAYTIME IS OVER” VIDEO- I assume this was from Gail. If that’s the case, it is a lot worse than just letting her cut a fiery babyface promo. If it’s not from Gail, it’s just weird.

CHRIS MELENDEZ PROMO- he claims that by ripping his prosthetic leg of Eric Young disrespected not only Melendez himself, but also the United States, the US Army, and our grand ol’ flag. Sorry, but I’m calling bullsh*t on this. He didn’t do any of those other things. He just didn’t. Chris Melendez served in the military and his lost his leg defending our country, and I thank him for his service will all of my heart… but this does not make him some sort of avatar of our military or of our country, and the quicker TNA gets that out of their heads and actually tries to come up with stories for Chris Melendez the person rather than “The One-Legged Solider (who happens to be named Chris Melendez)” the quicker this character will become bearable.
Then Eric Young came out and cut a bad promo right in front of Melendez’s face, while Melendez, who wanted to kick EY’s ass… just stands there and takes it. Oh. Well. Melendez has apparently decided to wait until next week to get his revenge because… um…

JESSE GODDERZ vs. DJ ZEMA ION- no rating, good squash.

JESSE GODDERZ PROMO- awesome! So awesome, in fact, that it made me think that letting Robbie E. get his heat back was a big mistake unless they are doing something either next week or on the PPV.

SLAMMIVERSARY COMMERCIAL- I believe this is the first on they’ve aired, just a week and a half before the PPV. They’re advertising Jeff Hardy for the PPV! Great to have Jeff back so soon after his injury.

MAGNUS CALLS OUT JAMES STORM- started out awesome, then went downhill
Magnus was FANTASTIC here.
Is Magnus really being held back by three security guys at a wrestling show? Really?

Apparently Lashley is ranked #3. Don’t worry. That fact will never be important again.

BOBBY LASHLEY vs. ETHAN CARTER III (w/Tyrus)- 5/10
Can we please get a clean finish instead of ninety-three ref bumps? I’ll bet Tyrus doesn’t get in any trouble at all for assaulting all of those referees and that they never go back to rematch between these two as a result of this dirty finish.

Another bad TNA show, aside from the Magnus stuff and the Jesse Godderz stuff. We didn’t even get any mention of next week’s match to crown a new X-Division Champion, much less some sort of hype for it.

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CONTRACT SIGNING FOR THE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE MATCH-
Didn’t I just watch one of these?
Mike Tenay sighting.
No table? Wow. Those TNA budget cuts must be worse than I thought.
made it good, tables and decorations are tacky, and i'm glad it didn't end in nonesense fighting for the sake of fighting

I hated Ethan’s promo. It just came off like a speech. It would have been so much better if he had actually NAMED all of these legends rather than spouting off nicknames. When he said “Ayatolahs” I found myself wondering when Kurt had wrestled the Iron Sheik until it hit me that he meant Jericho. Kurt’s promo also wasn’t very good.
Ethat is running his 'candidate' promo, a speech is perfect for him, and his type of promo works best withthe nickname thing IMO. I agree on Kurt, didn't like his promo.


WINNER GETS TO PICK THE STIP FOR THE NEXT MATCH IN THE TAG TITLE SERIES: Bobby Roode vs. Eddie Edwards (w/Davey Richards)- 6.5/10
Huh. Didn’t see the Wolves win coming. I’m not sure what the point of The Wolves winning here was, though. It makes the Dirty Heels’ cheating seem kind of impotent. Either way, the next match will be Full Metal Mayhem.
as soon as Austin came out i figured the Wolves would win in order to escalate the stipulation thing, what i don't really know is what they'll do for Match 5 if this is already a FMM match.


BRAM vs. JOSEPH PARK- DUD!
In fact, neither JB nor the announcers seem to remember that Joseph Park is Abyss. How do they not remember this? He even has Abyss’ scraggly beard! IT’S BARELY BEEN A YEAR SINCE HE WENT BACK TO BEING ABYSS! HOW THE F*CK ARE THESE PEOPLE THIS F*CKING STUPID?!
you mean a wrestling promotion doesn't remember and ignore something beyond the last month!?

IF BROOKE AND KONG WIN, THEY BOTH GET TITLE SHOTS, BUT IF THEY LOSE, THEY CAN’T GET ANY TITLES SHOTS WHILE TARYN IS CHAMP: Brooke Tessmacher & Awesome Kong vs. The Dollhouse (w/Taryn Terrell)- 4.5/10
I MUST have more of Taryn excitedly bouncing up and down!
On commentary, Josh tells us that as of midnight, Taryn will break Gail’s record for longest title reign. WHAT THE HELL, TNA?! HOW THE F*CK DID YOU NOT BOOK GAIL VS. TARYN FOR THE TITLE FOR TONIGHT?!
it would honestly make no sense whatsoever to have another Kim vs Taryn at this point, i do agree that the title should have been on the line tonight

“PLAYTIME IS OVER” VIDEO- I assume this was from Gail. If that’s the case, it is a lot worse than just letting her cut a fiery babyface promo. If it’s not from Gail, it’s just weird.
definitely not Kim, this lady had huge nails. I thought it was Velvet for a moment, but that would make no sense, so i'm hoping someone is debuting. We all know we need Alyssa Flash back

CHRIS MELENDEZ PROMO- he claims that by ripping his prosthetic leg of Eric Young disrespected not only Melendez himself, but also the United States, the US Army, and our grand ol’ flag. Sorry, but I’m calling bullsh*t on this. He didn’t do any of those other things. He just didn’t. Chris Melendez served in the military and his lost his leg defending our country, and I thank him for his service will all of my heart… but this does not make him some sort of avatar of our military or of our country, and the quicker TNA gets that out of their heads and actually tries to come up with stories for Chris Melendez the person rather than “The One-Legged Solider (who happens to be named Chris Melendez)” the quicker this character will become bearable.
Then Eric Young came out and cut a bad promo right in front of Melendez’s face, while Melendez, who wanted to kick EY’s ass… just stands there and takes it. Oh. Well. Melendez has apparently decided to wait until next week to get his revenge because… um…
i agree with you, i hate when they try to use the USA Patriotism thing to support a babyface, but at least i give credit to TNA here, they made that video package look like a big thing

JESSE GODDERZ PROMO- awesome! So awesome, in fact, that it made me think that letting Robbie E. get his heat back was a big mistake unless they are doing something either next week or on the PPV.
my only concern is that DJZ will just be lost in the shuffle here, i wish this feud would become a 3-way deal at some point

MAGNUS CALLS OUT JAMES STORM- started out awesome, then went downhill
Magnus was FANTASTIC here.
Is Magnus really being held back by three security guys at a wrestling show? Really?
thought it was awesome, as soon as Storm came out with the baby, i knew people will start giving them shit, but i thought it was pretty cool, and it makes sense that Magnus had to bring the baby to work if MJ is still 'out' and probably can't take care of it for now

Apparently Lashley is ranked #3. Don’t worry. That fact will never be important again.
why?

BOBBY LASHLEY vs. ETHAN CARTER III (w/Tyrus)- 5/10
Can we please get a clean finish instead of ninety-three ref bumps?
between the undefeated no 1 contender and one of Impact's biggest talents? no way man, not gonna happen. did i want one too? yes, did i hate the ref bump stuff? yes i did. but this wasa like Joe vs Owens, no way we were getting a clean win tonight

Another badgood TNA show, aside from the Magnus stuff and the Jesse Godderz stuff.

We didn’t even get any mention of next week’s match to crown a new X-Division Champion, much less some sort of hype for it.
they did on two occasions, once they showed the graphic, the other Josh and Pope were talking about it, Josh went full smark and correced pope on how to pronounce GRADO

[Big Red Machine]

CONTRACT SIGNING FOR THE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE MATCH-
Didn’t I just watch one of these?
Mike Tenay sighting.
No table? Wow. Those TNA budget cuts must be worse than I thought.
made it good, tables and decorations are tacky, and i'm glad it didn't end in nonesense fighting for the sake of fighting
It's a contract signing. It needs a table to sign the contract on.
I hated Ethan’s promo. It just came off like a speech. It would have been so much better if he had actually NAMED all of these legends rather than spouting off nicknames. When he said “Ayatolahs” I found myself wondering when Kurt had wrestled the Iron Sheik until it hit me that he meant Jericho. Kurt’s promo also wasn’t very good.
Ethat is running his 'candidate' promo, a speech is perfect for him, and his type of promo works best withthe nickname thing IMO. I agree on Kurt, didn't like his promo.
And this whole "candidate" thing is not only stupid, but it should be over by now because Ethan is already getting his title shot and thus has nothing left to campaign for. This was the time for a fiery pro wrestling promo, not a goofy campaign speech.


WINNER GETS TO PICK THE STIP FOR THE NEXT MATCH IN THE TAG TITLE SERIES: Bobby Roode vs. Eddie Edwards (w/Davey Richards)- 6.5/10
Huh. Didn’t see the Wolves win coming. I’m not sure what the point of The Wolves winning here was, though. It makes the Dirty Heels’ cheating seem kind of impotent. Either way, the next match will be Full Metal Mayhem.
as soon as Austin came out i figured the Wolves would win in order to escalate the stipulation thing, what i don't really know is what they'll do for Match 5 if this is already a FMM match.
That's another good point. MAYBE they could get away with an Iron-Team match as trumping FMM, but only if they gave it a full hour.

BRAM vs. JOSEPH PARK- DUD!
In fact, neither JB nor the announcers seem to remember that Joseph Park is Abyss. How do they not remember this? He even has Abyss’ scraggly beard! IT’S BARELY BEEN A YEAR SINCE HE WENT BACK TO BEING ABYSS! HOW THE F*CK ARE THESE PEOPLE THIS F*CKING STUPID?!
you mean a wrestling promotion doesn't remember and ignore something beyond the last month!?
Yes. The difference is (and this is not me excusing when WWE does it; I'm merely explaining why I have hated it so much here)
1. When WWE does it, it tends to be in the service of telling a further story. In this case ANYONE from TNA's past would have worked, but instead they chose to use the one guy who opens up a million different cans of worms.
2. This is a much bigger mistake than forgetting that two guys had a feud last year. For that, I can believe that time heals most wounds. This is Kane might have used to lived in an asylum from the time he was a child until the time Paul Bearer brought him to the WWE... but I guess they let him out of the asylum to go to a party where he drove home and killed his good friend Katie Vick. It's a much worse level of bad.

IF BROOKE AND KONG WIN, THEY BOTH GET TITLE SHOTS, BUT IF THEY LOSE, THEY CAN’T GET ANY TITLES SHOTS WHILE TARYN IS CHAMP: Brooke Tessmacher & Awesome Kong vs. The Dollhouse (w/Taryn Terrell)- 4.5/10
I MUST have more of Taryn excitedly bouncing up and down!
On commentary, Josh tells us that as of midnight, Taryn will break Gail’s record for longest title reign. WHAT THE HELL, TNA?! HOW THE F*CK DID YOU NOT BOOK GAIL VS. TARYN FOR THE TITLE FOR TONIGHT?!
it would honestly make no sense whatsoever to have another Kim vs Taryn at this point, i do agree that the title should have been on the line tonight
So then you don't do that cage match for the title a few weeks ago. Duh. Especially if you want to move past Gail vs. Taryn, then you use this show as their blow-off and then use next week's show to set up Kong and Brooke for the PPV. PLAN AHEAD.
“PLAYTIME IS OVER” VIDEO- I assume this was from Gail. If that’s the case, it is a lot worse than just letting her cut a fiery babyface promo. If it’s not from Gail, it’s just weird.
definitely not Kim, this lady had huge nails. I thought it was Velvet for a moment, but that would make no sense, so i'm hoping someone is debuting. We all know we need Alyssa Flash back
Velvet is a good possibility, too.
CHRIS MELENDEZ PROMO- he claims that by ripping his prosthetic leg of Eric Young disrespected not only Melendez himself, but also the United States, the US Army, and our grand ol’ flag. Sorry, but I’m calling bullsh*t on this. He didn’t do any of those other things. He just didn’t. Chris Melendez served in the military and his lost his leg defending our country, and I thank him for his service will all of my heart… but this does not make him some sort of avatar of our military or of our country, and the quicker TNA gets that out of their heads and actually tries to come up with stories for Chris Melendez the person rather than “The One-Legged Solider (who happens to be named Chris Melendez)” the quicker this character will become bearable.
Then Eric Young came out and cut a bad promo right in front of Melendez’s face, while Melendez, who wanted to kick EY’s ass… just stands there and takes it. Oh. Well. Melendez has apparently decided to wait until next week to get his revenge because… um…
i agree with you, i hate when they try to use the USA Patriotism thing to support a babyface, but at least i give credit to TNA here, they made that video package look like a big thing
Yes... but they should have shown said video package the week after the incident happened, rather than ignore it until they were ready for Melendez to randomly show up again.
JESSE GODDERZ PROMO- awesome! So awesome, in fact, that it made me think that letting Robbie E. get his heat back was a big mistake unless they are doing something either next week or on the PPV.
my only concern is that DJZ will just be lost in the shuffle here, i wish this feud would become a 3-way deal at some point
Agreed

MAGNUS CALLS OUT JAMES STORM- started out awesome, then went downhill
Magnus was FANTASTIC here.
Is Magnus really being held back by three security guys at a wrestling show? Really?
thought it was awesome, as soon as Storm came out with the baby, i knew people will start giving them shit, but i thought it was pretty cool, and it makes sense that Magnus had to bring the baby to work if MJ is still 'out' and probably can't take care of it for now
It was one of those things where if it really was the baby I was prepared to give them sh*t, but if it was just an identical stroller I would have been fine with it... which is what they did, so it was fine.
Apparently Lashley is ranked #3. Don’t worry. That fact will never be important again.
why?
Because they never ever mention it... except for those times when it's supposed to be the most important thing in the world, so for that show, they push it like it's the most important thing in the world, and it annoys me because it feels cheap. As I said when the rankings first came up, if you are going to do something like this, it a) needs to be important all of the time, and b) we need to understand how the system works. Things need to have visible consequences. TNA hasn't done that, so any time the rankings are mentioned, it feels like they are just pulling it out of their ass, which is bad.
BOBBY LASHLEY vs. ETHAN CARTER III (w/Tyrus)- 5/10
Can we please get a clean finish instead of ninety-three ref bumps?
between the undefeated no 1 contender and one of Impact's biggest talents? no way man, not gonna happen. did i want one too? yes, did i hate the ref bump stuff? yes i did. but this wasa like Joe vs Owens, no way we were getting a clean win tonight
1. If you are really trying to build Ethan up as the next guy, then yes, he can beat Lashley clean, but...
2. I would have been totally fine with a dirty finish here (I thought the "spear the chair" spot would have been great for that). It's really the ref bumps that annoyed me more.

Another badgood TNA show, aside from the Magnus stuff and the Jesse Godderz stuff.
Dude. It's a bad show. What matches are they putting on the PPV? We barely have ANY idea. The wrestling wasn't good, either. They just had some good promos.
We didn’t even get any mention of next week’s match to crown a new X-Division Champion, much less some sort of hype for it.
they did on two occasions, once they showed the graphic, the other Josh and Pope were talking about it, Josh went full smark and correced pope on how to pronounce GRADO
Well... I clearly missed it. Even so, that's a crappy way to do it. Why not give me some promos from the guys who are in it (Grado, Low Ki, and ?) to actually make the damn thing seem important. Hell... the Low Ki promo would have been a great way to at least get the BDC on the show to remind us about their feud with The Rising, too.

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I hated Ethan’s promo. It just came off like a speech. It would have been so much better if he had actually NAMED all of these legends rather than spouting off nicknames. When he said “Ayatolahs” I found myself wondering when Kurt had wrestled the Iron Sheik until it hit me that he meant Jericho. Kurt’s promo also wasn’t very good.
Ethat is running his 'candidate' promo, a speech is perfect for him, and his type of promo works best withthe nickname thing IMO. I agree on Kurt, didn't like his promo.
And this whole "candidate" thing is not only stupid, but it should be over by now because Ethan is already getting his title shot and thus has nothing left to campaign for. This was the time for a fiery pro wrestling promo, not a goofy campaign speech.
he's a candidate until he wins, and he's a heel, fiery promo is not really appropriate, it was a great promo explaining why exactly is he better than Kurt is.


IF BROOKE AND KONG WIN, THEY BOTH GET TITLE SHOTS, BUT IF THEY LOSE, THEY CAN’T GET ANY TITLES SHOTS WHILE TARYN IS CHAMP: Brooke Tessmacher & Awesome Kong vs. The Dollhouse (w/Taryn Terrell)- 4.5/10
I MUST have more of Taryn excitedly bouncing up and down!
On commentary, Josh tells us that as of midnight, Taryn will break Gail’s record for longest title reign. WHAT THE HELL, TNA?! HOW THE F*CK DID YOU NOT BOOK GAIL VS. TARYN FOR THE TITLE FOR TONIGHT?!
it would honestly make no sense whatsoever to have another Kim vs Taryn at this point, i do agree that the title should have been on the line tonight
So then you don't do that cage match for the title a few weeks ago. Duh. Especially if you want to move past Gail vs. Taryn, then you use this show as their blow-off and then use next week's show to set up Kong and Brooke for the PPV. PLAN AHEAD.
I just don't get why it HAS to be Kim the fight last night, the only reason to that match is to create some 'suspense' but that's it, it can be achieve with anyone

CHRIS MELENDEZ PROMO- he claims that by ripping his prosthetic leg of Eric Young disrespected not only Melendez himself, but also the United States, the US Army, and our grand ol’ flag. Sorry, but I’m calling bullsh*t on this. He didn’t do any of those other things. He just didn’t. Chris Melendez served in the military and his lost his leg defending our country, and I thank him for his service will all of my heart… but this does not make him some sort of avatar of our military or of our country, and the quicker TNA gets that out of their heads and actually tries to come up with stories for Chris Melendez the person rather than “The One-Legged Solider (who happens to be named Chris Melendez)” the quicker this character will become bearable.
Then Eric Young came out and cut a bad promo right in front of Melendez’s face, while Melendez, who wanted to kick EY’s ass… just stands there and takes it. Oh. Well. Melendez has apparently decided to wait until next week to get his revenge because… um…
i agree with you, i hate when they try to use the USA Patriotism thing to support a babyface, but at least i give credit to TNA here, they made that video package look like a big thing
Yes... but they should have shown said video package the week after the incident happened, rather than ignore it until they were ready for Melendez to randomly show up again.
completely disagree, i've learned from LU that you remind the fans until the day you're gonna bring it up, no point in showing it the next day when you're not really gonna follow up on it

Apparently Lashley is ranked #3. Don’t worry. That fact will never be important again.
why?
Because they never ever mention it... except for those times when it's supposed to be the most important thing in the world, so for that show, they push it like it's the most important thing in the world, and it annoys me because it feels cheap. As I said when the rankings first came up, if you are going to do something like this, it a) needs to be important all of the time, and b) we need to understand how the system works. Things need to have visible consequences. TNA hasn't done that, so any time the rankings are mentioned, it feels like they are just pulling it out of their ass, which is bad.
Josh has a video every week updating the list, it's mentioned all over their social media and their website, it's not just brought up when it's convenient

Another badgood TNA show, aside from the Magnus stuff and the Jesse Godderz stuff.
Dude. It's a bad show. What matches are they putting on the PPV? We barely have ANY idea. The wrestling wasn't good, either. They just had some good promos.
by contrast you said that nxt had a good show, when it only had one decent match with a non-finish and the rest was useless stuffing. TNA on the other hand didn't waste time in their shows, everything the showed was building up to something, Eddie/Roode was great, ECIII/Lashley was good aside from the finish, Jesse/DJZ was good, KOs match was good, at least better Charlotte vs KC Cassidy. Promo wise, Magnus, ECIII, Jesse, and even Taryn's bed stuff was great. This was really a good show from TNA. Arguably the only bad thing was the Joseph Park thing, and it was still passable.

What matches are they putting on the PPV? I don't think it matters since it seems that Slammaversary will not be canon, and they still have one more week anyway. ROH however, didn't promote their PPV for shit either, and it's 2 days from today, and that one IS canon, and it's their second most important show of the year, but that didn't make the show a bad show, even as a go-home show, did it?

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What matches are they putting on the PPV? I don't think it matters since it seems that Slammaversary will not be canon, and they still have one more week anyway. ROH however, didn't promote their PPV for shit either, and it's 2 days from today, and that one IS canon, and it's their second most important show of the year, but that didn't make the show a bad show, even as a go-home show, did it?[/color]
Actually I watch the ROH TV show every week and I can tell you every match off the top of my head and they build up enough of the matches I'm willing to pay the $35 to see it while TNA on the other hand I don't know 1 match they're doing and don't have any interest in buying it either

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What matches are they putting on the PPV? I don't think it matters since it seems that Slammaversary will not be canon, and they still have one more week anyway. ROH however, didn't promote their PPV for shit either, and it's 2 days from today, and that one IS canon, and it's their second most important show of the year, but that didn't make the show a bad show, even as a go-home show, did it?[/color]

Actually I watch the ROH TV show every week and I can tell you every match off the top of my head and they build up enough of the matches I'm willing to pay the $35 to see it while TNA on the other hand I don't know 1 match they're doing and don't have any interest in buying it either

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I hated Ethan’s promo. It just came off like a speech. It would have been so much better if he had actually NAMED all of these legends rather than spouting off nicknames. When he said “Ayatolahs” I found myself wondering when Kurt had wrestled the Iron Sheik until it hit me that he meant Jericho. Kurt’s promo also wasn’t very good.
Ethat is running his 'candidate' promo, a speech is perfect for him, and his type of promo works best withthe nickname thing IMO. I agree on Kurt, didn't like his promo.
And this whole "candidate" thing is not only stupid, but it should be over by now because Ethan is already getting his title shot and thus has nothing left to campaign for. This was the time for a fiery pro wrestling promo, not a goofy campaign speech.
he's a candidate until he wins, and he's a heel, fiery promo is not really appropriate, it was a great promo explaining why exactly is he better than Kurt is.
No. He was campaigning for the title shot. He's already been given the title shot.
As for heel's not cutting fiery promos... you don't think Owens has been fiery? Or Jay Lethal? Or Barrett? Or heel Flair? Of course heels can cut fiery promos.


IF BROOKE AND KONG WIN, THEY BOTH GET TITLE SHOTS, BUT IF THEY LOSE, THEY CAN’T GET ANY TITLES SHOTS WHILE TARYN IS CHAMP: Brooke Tessmacher & Awesome Kong vs. The Dollhouse (w/Taryn Terrell)- 4.5/10
I MUST have more of Taryn excitedly bouncing up and down!
On commentary, Josh tells us that as of midnight, Taryn will break Gail’s record for longest title reign. WHAT THE HELL, TNA?! HOW THE F*CK DID YOU NOT BOOK GAIL VS. TARYN FOR THE TITLE FOR TONIGHT?!
it would honestly make no sense whatsoever to have another Kim vs Taryn at this point, i do agree that the title should have been on the line tonight
So then you don't do that cage match for the title a few weeks ago. Duh. Especially if you want to move past Gail vs. Taryn, then you use this show as their blow-off and then use next week's show to set up Kong and Brooke for the PPV. PLAN AHEAD.
I just don't get why it HAS to be Kim the fight last night, the only reason to that match is to create some 'suspense' but that's it, it can be achieve with anyone
It is a story that makes the most sense with Gail. In order to break Gail's record (and thus finally feel like she is out of Gail's shadow, Taryn must actually beat Gail.

CHRIS MELENDEZ PROMO- he claims that by ripping his prosthetic leg of Eric Young disrespected not only Melendez himself, but also the United States, the US Army, and our grand ol’ flag. Sorry, but I’m calling bullsh*t on this. He didn’t do any of those other things. He just didn’t. Chris Melendez served in the military and his lost his leg defending our country, and I thank him for his service will all of my heart… but this does not make him some sort of avatar of our military or of our country, and the quicker TNA gets that out of their heads and actually tries to come up with stories for Chris Melendez the person rather than “The One-Legged Solider (who happens to be named Chris Melendez)” the quicker this character will become bearable.
Then Eric Young came out and cut a bad promo right in front of Melendez’s face, while Melendez, who wanted to kick EY’s ass… just stands there and takes it. Oh. Well. Melendez has apparently decided to wait until next week to get his revenge because… um…
i agree with you, i hate when they try to use the USA Patriotism thing to support a babyface, but at least i give credit to TNA here, they made that video package look like a big thing
Yes... but they should have shown said video package the week after the incident happened, rather than ignore it until they were ready for Melendez to randomly show up again.
completely disagree, i've learned from LU that you remind the fans until the day you're gonna bring it up, no point in showing it the next day when you're not really gonna follow up on it
Sure there is. It keeps it fresh in our minds. And, personally, I think they (and LU) SHOULD be following up on most things (especially a big angle like that) every week.

Apparently Lashley is ranked #3. Don’t worry. That fact will never be important again.
why?
Because they never ever mention it... except for those times when it's supposed to be the most important thing in the world, so for that show, they push it like it's the most important thing in the world, and it annoys me because it feels cheap. As I said when the rankings first came up, if you are going to do something like this, it a) needs to be important all of the time, and b) we need to understand how the system works. Things need to have visible consequences. TNA hasn't done that, so any time the rankings are mentioned, it feels like they are just pulling it out of their ass, which is bad.
Josh has a video every week updating the list, it's mentioned all over their social media and their website, it's not just brought up when it's convenient
It that on the TV show? No. Then how am I going to know about it? Not everyone is an internet fan, and even those of us who are internet fans tend to use our internet time to follow more internet-y promotions like CHIKARA than we do with WWE or TNA. I'm not on Twitter and I'm not subscribed to their youtube channel and I don't visit their website most of the time. You can't just rely on people visiting the website to get the concept over. And how difficult would it really be to f*cking post a graphic of the top 5 on the TV every week.
And even if they are doing all of these things, then why isn't the desire for wrestlers to "move up in the rankings" ever mentioned? Shouldn't it be brought up how a big a win it would be to knock off a ranked guy and move closer to a title shot every time someone is in the ring with a ranked guy?

Another badgood TNA show, aside from the Magnus stuff and the Jesse Godderz stuff.
Dude. It's a bad show. What matches are they putting on the PPV? We barely have ANY idea. The wrestling wasn't good, either. They just had some good promos.
by contrast you said that nxt had a good show, when it only had one decent match with a non-finish and the rest was useless stuffing. TNA on the other hand didn't waste time in their shows, everything the showed was building up to something, Eddie/Roode was great, ECIII/Lashley was good aside from the finish, Jesse/DJZ was good, KOs match was good, at least better Charlotte vs KC Cassidy. Promo wise, Magnus, ECIII, Jesse, and even Taryn's bed stuff was great. This was really a good show from TNA. Arguably the only bad thing was the Joseph Park thing, and it was still passable.
Because NXT feels like it is going somewhere. Joe and Owens are feuding. Alexa, Blake, and Murphy are feuding with the New York crew. Dana Brooke called out Charlotte. They are building up Balor huge. I trust them to pay everything off, and to do so in a way that makes sense and tells a story well.
Yes, TNA has some stuff going on... but the big difference is that in NXT (and ROH, and LU, and even Evolve) it is with characters I care about and in TNA they have completely and totally squandered my faith that any of this will wind up being good.
Every time they have something good going, they either ruin it with something idiotic (like the whole Storm vs. Mickie James deal), or with sh*t follow-up that shows an inability to capitalize on things. Remember how awesome Bram was when he was feuding with Magnus? How did that end? Look at where Bram is now. Same thing for Gunner last year during his feud with James Storm. Now he's barely even on the show. Every time something seems to be going well in TNA, they squander it or ruin it. Joseph Park was an interesting character... until they forgot that HE'S NOT ABYSS BECAUSE HE AND ABYSS SHOWED UP IN THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE BUILD-UP TO AND DURING HIS BIG FIRST MATCH.
I feel like nothing that is said on the show ever means anything (including the stips of matches). Why is Magnus asking Dixie Carter for a match with James Storm? She was supposed to have lost power over a year ago (and yet somehow still had it after that).
How is The Rising "standing up for wrestling" by fighting the BDC. Even if you believe their whole "titles have power" BS (even though it always seems like the opposite is true), then why aren't they stopping the BDC from winning titles?
The rankings are very important and it's important to win... except that they barely ever mention the rankings, and the few times that they have, the rankings have made no sense. After all... how has Ethan not been #1 if he has never been pinned or made to submit?
Even GOOD characters like Ethan they have to ruin by either putting in too much comedy or telling stupid, pointless lies (like the whole "undefeated streak" deal).
I'll call NXT or ROH out for being a do-nothing show, but those shows never sap my confidence in the bookers (and LU does only rarely). TNA has already taxed that (so has main-roster WWE, but at least we get great PPV matches from them) and opended it many times over. Until they get that back (and I had been loving things like Storm/Magnus/Mickie until they ruined it, or Gail vs. Taryn), I will call a go-nowhere, do nothing show a "bad" show. Because unlike ROH or NXT or LU, I don't feel like it is going anywhere even close to good.


What matches are they putting on the PPV? I don't think it matters since it seems that Slammaversary will not be canon, and they still have one more week anyway. ROH however, didn't promote their PPV for shit either, and it's 2 days from today, and that one IS canon, and it's their second most important show of the year, but that didn't make the show a bad show, even as a go-home show, did it?
The difference is that ROH is promoting a two-match show. I think that's a bad idea, but that's what they've chosen to do, and they have promoted those two matches (world title and tag titles) very well. I'd tell you the exact same thing about Summer Slam 2013. The only things that got any attention were Dragon vs. Cena and Lesnar vs. Punk.
Compare that to Slammiversary, where it is just over a week away and we know ONE match... and that one wasn't even mentioned on TV... and they even pulled their planned world title match off of the PPV to do it on a canned TV show that will be taped in such a way that either the PPV will be out of continuity or they'll spoil it's results with the tapings. Just the very fact that the TNA PPV is "out of continuity" is a HUGE strike against the company. And this is TNA's second biggest PPV of the year, too. It will have been OVER A YEAR since they had an in-continuity PPV.
I called ROH out for not promoting their PPV well, and I'll do the same to TNA. ROH was a great show, though, with a big moment in Cedric's heel turn and Moose's first lost, and an awesome main event. TNA had none of that. There have been maybe three TNA matches all year that have been better than ROH's main event this week, and that match isn't even one of the top ten ROH matches of the year. THAT' is why ROH was a good show and TNA was a bad one.