CHIKARA Conspiracy: Season 12 Is An Alternate Timeline

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CHIKARA Conspiracy: Season 12 Is An Alternate Timeline

Post by cero2k » May 7th, '13, 16:33

The Mandible Claw Podcast talks how Season 12 is not happening
it all makes sooo much sense O_O
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Re: CHIKARA Conspiracy: Season 12 Is An Alternate Timeline

Post by Big Red Machine » May 7th, '13, 18:05

HMMMMM... just found this official CHIKARA Blog:

Derek Sabato blog, 2.14.2013

2/14/2013: To Mr. Conrad Vavasseur,

We have never formally met, but I’d like to introduce myself to you. My name is Derek Sabato and I work in various capacities for CHIKARA…a subsidiary of Worldwide Media Development Corporation.

My current position for CHIKARA is one of a business liaison to a group that does not seem to exist anymore. I was assigned this position by your son, Wink Vavasseur, a little under a year ago. I have also been injured on the job more than once, and am still awaiting compensation for this incident (video below.)

I now find myself with very little to do - my talents as a referee are no longer being utilized. So other than becoming a respected blogger within the industry, my skill set is not really being employed since your son’s surprising ascension to the role of Director here.

A fellow blogger recently called attention to a group called Condor Security, which I understand is owned by the same parent company as Worldwide Media Development Corporation…the same parent company where you serve as an executive. Men from this security organization have staffed CHIKARA events. Well, they did. Apparently not anymore.

Now, I’ve been a victim of conspiracy all throughout my life. I know there are people that like to see conspiracies even where there are none. Do I believe all the stuff I read online? No, of course not, I’m realistic. I like to get all the facts and hear different opinions before I form my own.

But getting facts about the Titor Conglomerate has proven almost impossible. And Worldwide Media Development Corporation? No matter what time of day or night I call their offices, I get the same recorded message and no one ever returns my calls. I’d love to speak to someone directly, but that doesn’t seem to be a realistic option.

So I’ll have to take this to a public forum if I want any answers to my questions. What is it exactly that Condor Security does for the Titor Conglomerate? There are some outrageous allegations out there about the group. How do you respond to them?

Why is it that there does not seem to be anyone working at Worldwide Media Development Corp? I’ve used Google Maps and I can’t even locate a possible office site for them. If you are the Executive Vice President of Acquisitions for Titor, then companies like these are under your purview, correct? That is exactly your responsibility if I understand your job title. The operation, or failure in operation of these companies can be traced back to your role at Titor, right?

I am not one to be silenced on anything. If you get a chance check out my Twitter (@DerekSabato) and you’ll see I bite my tongue on nothing. Looking forward to your statement on this matter.

Thanks,
Derek Sabato
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Re: CHIKARA Conspiracy: Season 12 Is An Alternate Timeline

Post by cero2k » May 7th, '13, 18:18

WOW interesting :-?
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Re: CHIKARA Conspiracy: Season 12 Is An Alternate Timeline

Post by Big Red Machine » May 7th, '13, 18:49

Here's the problem with this: Even if the theory is correct, it doesn't change anything. Our timeline has changed and we are stuck living in it. All of these things; F.I.S.T. breaking up, Jigsaw turning on Quack, the Ants stuff, Spectral Envoy winning KOT, etc... they have all happened in the timeline we are now stuck living in. There is no reset button. It might be possible that these things were not originally supposed to happen, but that they did happen cannot be changed.
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Re: CHIKARA Conspiracy: Season 12 Is An Alternate Timeline

Post by cero2k » May 8th, '13, 09:01

Big Red Machine wrote:Here's the problem with this: Even if the theory is correct, it doesn't change anything. Our timeline has changed and we are stuck living in it. All of these things; F.I.S.T. breaking up, Jigsaw turning on Quack, the Ants stuff, Spectral Envoy winning KOT, etc... they have all happened in the timeline we are now stuck living in. There is no reset button. It might be possible that these things were not originally supposed to happen, but that they did happen cannot be changed.
while this is true, we also know have knowledge of these alternate realities, or at least the time travel. We know it's possible, we can recreate the effects that cause it at first. So two things could come from CHIKARA, either Peck is sent back and that's it, we indeed stay in this reality unless he changes something in the past, or through the use of technology or magic (Eye if Tyr, Ophidian Hypnosis, some Xtreme Force Space Technology), a back fist to the futute could end up sending all the fans back in time! We could go back to a show when Matt Classic is still in his prime, but i think the point in time we NEED to go back is either when Derek Sabato gets injured and stops working as a ref, if indeed he has something to do with this, OR even further back when Shard, 17, and the The Swarm are barely starting, and instead of rejecting them, the fans need to embrace them. That could completely change the future, they won't come back for revenge that way.

I'm just shooting out ideas. But the reality thing could be worked by sending all fans in time too. And honestly it would be awesome, just for laughs to be sent to the infamous Matt Classic vs Bojangles The Bear match, or to the first shows of Chikara, or something like that
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Re: CHIKARA Conspiracy: Season 12 Is An Alternate Timeline

Post by Big Red Machine » May 8th, '13, 10:49

The other problem with the time travel reset button is that it would really piss people off, and I think Quack is too smart for that.
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Re: CHIKARA Conspiracy: Season 12 Is An Alternate Timeline

Post by Big Red Machine » Jun 1st, '13, 20:33

From Ole! A Wrestling Blog:
http://olewrestling.com/chikara-wrestli ... nswers.htm



Posted on 5/28
So this is crazy. I received a mysterious email two days ago from a gmx.com account with the subject "Three Answers for Vince" that read:

Hi there. I am offering you answers about anything CHIKARA related, public or not. Anything at all from the last 12 seasons. Send me a maximum of 3 questions in the next 6 days. I'll answer them.

I didn't know how to take it, really. It didn't seem real, but the wording of it did so I replied with three questions. In retrospect, I wish I had taken more time to craft them. Or even sent one at a time. There are so many questions I have about all things Chikara, but I had to pick just three. After much deliberation I settled on these three.

1. Besides the financial aspect, what did WMD hope to gain by acquiring Chikara?

2. Has the Eye of Tyr been used to control anyone (or anything) besides Delirious?

3. Why were the Swamp Monster and Lance Steel at TWGP13 at the exact time that Archibald Peck traveled through time?

I wanted to cover the biggest issues in Chikara right now which to me are Archibald Peck, WMD/Titor Conglomerate and the Eye of Tyr. Maybe I'd have been better off focusing on one, but one morsel of information is more than we have right now so I asked these three. I didn't know what I expected in return, but I can say that I was surprised (and a bit shocked) when I got this email in reply:

1) Worldwide Media Development Corp. appears to be nothing more than a shell corporation erected by the Titor Conglomerate.

2) Absolutely.

3) They seemed to be discussing the properties of an ever-ripe banana.

Shoot.

I feel like I blew my first question as I already knew that. I should have asked something about Titor. Or Condor Security. Or OSSWE. Or SOMETHING. I knew what I wanted to gain from this question, but I don't think I asked it correctly. They dodged me a bit, but still. Blew it.

The third one, again, I feel like I blew it. I knew that. Yes, the answered dodged my question. I didn't ask WHAT they were doing, I asked why, but still I feel like I screwed this up. I wanted to ask what Archie has been doing since Chikarasaurus Rex 2012 and why we haven't seen him. WHY DIDN'T I ASK THAT?

But the second one? Now that's intriguing. Is whoever recovered the Eye (possibly someone associated with Titor) controlling members of the Chikara roster? If so, who?

I want to attempt to send a follow-up email to this person, but I'm not sure if they will answer. They promised me three answers and they gave me three answers, but I'm not going to do that until I figure out what I should really be asking.

***UPDATE****

I received a tweet from Kevin Ford who says that he got the exact same email. Here were his questions and their answer:

So I got the exact same email you did. Here are the questions I asked:
1) Will the answer to the Mysterium P puzzle ever be revealed?
2) What was in the envelope Mike Quackenbush was handed at "The Shoulder of Pallas?"
3) Who was 17?
Now for #3 I kept it vague. I didn't necessarily want the idea, but moreso what his point was in general? Anyways, here were the responses I received:

1) Mysterium Populous was an overt homage to the concept of Publius Enigma that was tied to the Pink Floyd album "The Division Bell." Unlike the Enigma, the Mysterium was given a very specific timeframe to prevent it from going on indefinitely. There were 13 phases to the Mysterium, each shorter than the one before it, leading to a final phase with just one clue, and one possible answer. The person that correctly solved the Mysterium would have been awarded a prize of every single CHIKARA DVD produced up until the day the Mysterium was solved. It would have also led to the release of a 4 minute video that foreshadowed much of Season 12. On the 365th day of the Mysterium game, no person or group had even progressed to the third phase, leaving the vast majority of the puzzle unsolved. The failure of the fans to solve Mysterium Populous means the video has never, and will never be released.

2) Information collected by a third party on the Vavasseur family.

3) A bitter nobody that spent time training under Skayde.

His email answers a question that I was just curious about, a BIG question about what was in the envelope and that combined with the third one hint at who the sender may have been. I don't want to front him out in public, but I think he probably knows a LOT of holds.

Did you get an email? Check your spam folder just in case. If you did, send it to vintown@olewrestling.com and I can share it here.

***UPDATE 2****

I shared the questions portion of this post on the official Chikara 101 message board in hopes of find others with a similar experience. Since then I was banned and the thread has been deleted. Clearly, WMD/Titor does not like the questions we are asking.

Since this update posts mentioning our post or our banning have been deleted. Someone is getting annoyed.

***UPDATE 3***

I emailed the mysterious person a follow up:

My correspondence with you has gotten me banned from the Chikara101 forums which makes me believe you even more. Clearly you are saying things that the Titor Conglomerate don't want to be exposed. I am on your side and would like to help get the truth out. Let me know if there is any way that I can assist you.

Vince

And received this response:

You must realize how sensitive this is. There is more to come. Look for me on Sunday.

Like I said: Never Compromise is going to be huge.
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Re: CHIKARA Conspiracy: Season 12 Is An Alternate Timeline

Post by cero2k » Jun 2nd, '13, 22:50

talking about CHIKARA ending and being replaced by the Wrestling is promotions, looking at the complete list of promotions, check this out

Wrestling Is...

Cool
Heart
Intense
Fun ?
Art
Respect
Awesome

Aside from fun, they spell out CHIKARA :-?
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Re: CHIKARA Conspiracy: Season 12 Is An Alternate Timeline

Post by Big Red Machine » Jun 3rd, '13, 00:01

cero2k wrote:talking about CHIKARA ending and being replaced by the Wrestling is promotions, looking at the complete list of promotions, check this out

Wrestling Is...

Cool
Heart
Intense
Fun ?
Art
Respect
Awesome

Aside from fun, they spell out CHIKARA :-?
You have it wrong, Cero

Fun

Cook
Heart
Intense
Kaiju Big Battel
Art
Respect
Awesome

As in Leonard F. CHIKARAson
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