What's more important: be the champ or the main storyline?

[cero2k]

I have a big question to everyone. In your opinion, what it's most important for a wrestler and a wrestler's career? to be involved in the world title scene either by being the champ or the no 1 contender, OOORR, to be involved in the main angle/feud in the company??

some examples.
be in CM Punk's title scene OR Cena vs Rock/Brock ??
be in Davey Richards' title scene OR Steen's War with ROH (before it involved Davey)
be in Roddy vs Davey OR in Steen vs Generico

what do you think is more important for a wrestler's career?

they're many obvious situations where the main angle is the title scene, so there's no point in considering those examples.

[badnewzxl]

the title picture is much more important. Angles must eventually end, no matter what it is. A good title run or a good run at the belt can continue without getting stale.

When angles go a certain distance, they either go too far or just get boring....

[RedSon]

it's hard to say, the title is the most prestigious thing in the company, but it sometimes feels like it's less important than the main storyline. right now i feel like punk vs jericho is less important than cena vs lesnar, cena is making a better name for being involved with lesnar than Punk for having the title. it's kinda what Heyman told JBL on one night stand, "the only reason you were champion is because triple h doesn't wanna work tuesdays", now it's like Punk is the champ because Cena has bigger feuds to be involved in.

i personally say a wrestler should be in the title scene, but a lot of storylines are bigger than the title and over shadow it.

[Big Red Machine]

An angle that is more important than the world title is very rare, and a lot of them are only bigger than the title because they are a more overarching story of which the world is an important piece, but not everything (like the BDK invasion, the Invasion Angle, the nWo, the feud between Immortal and those who opposed them, etc.).

The only times I can think of that an angle that didn't involve the title was important that the title are Rock vs. Cena this year, Streak vs. Career, Rock vs. Hogan, The ROH-CZW War, and Hogan & Mr. T vs. Piper & Orndorff (which still involved the champion). CHIKARA might have had one or two more, but I'm not as familiar with its history. Bruno vs. Larry Z also might have been, also, but I haven't seen much of it, so I can't tell for sure.

Of those angles that eclipsed it the world title, two were dream matches, another involved he world champ, one was an inter-promotional war, and fifth was HBK VS. TAKER AT MANIA, STREAK VS. CAREER! It takes a hell of a lot to be more important than the world title.

The main angle should almost always involve the champ in some way, so while it is more important to be in the main angle, the champ should almost always be in the main angle.

[Shogun Rua]

The main storyline should always involve the world champion anyways. The reason people become wrestlers in the first place is so they can one day be the world champion. Once the main storyline no longer involves the champion, then that means that your world title has just become less important.

[yourcrapsweak]

Well let me ask you this, who headlined WrestleMania this year?

[Shogun Rua]

On every UFC PPV, if there is a title on the line, that fight is always last, because it has the most importance. It's about two guys that started fighting for this very moment. Whether you're fighting to win the title, or fighting to defend the title, this is what it's all about. Even if there is a story behind the fight, the story is always second to the fact that the fight is for the world title. To see who is the best. If a fight in the same division goes on after the title fight (which would never happen, because the title is the most important thing) then that would mean that

1. These guys are better than the others who fought for the title earlier or

2. They're more important

If the guys that aren't fighting for a title are better than the champion, why aren't they fighting for the title, and why is that other guy champion in the first place?

That is my problem with Rock/Cena, what makes them better/more important than the world champion?

Because the sporting side of wrestling in the WWE doesn't matter anymore, only money. So, I guess the answer differs depending on which wrestling show you're referring to. In WWE, the main storyline (or more importantly, money) will always be more important.

[Big Red Machine]

On every UFC PPV, if there is a title on the line, that fight is always last, because it has the most importance. It's about two guys that started fighting for this very moment. Whether you're fighting to win the title, or fighting to defend the title, this is what it's all about. Even if there is a story behind the fight, the story is always second to the fact that the fight is for the world title. To see who is the best. If a fight in the same division goes on after the title fight (which would never happen, because the title is the most important thing) then that would mean that

1. These guys are better than the others who fought for the title earlier or

2. They're more important

If the guys that aren't fighting for a title are better than the champion, why aren't they fighting for the title, and why is that other guy champion in the first place?

That is my problem with Rock/Cena, what makes them better/more important than the world champion?

Because the sporting side of wrestling in the WWE doesn't matter anymore, only money. So, I guess the answer differs depending on which wrestling show you're referring to. In WWE, the main storyline (or more importantly, money) will always be more important.

Pro wrestling is different. Going on after the title match does not necessarily mean that you are better than the champ.

Why is the world title match not on last? Maybe it has a screwey finish, or something that the booker is unsure of whether or not the fans will accept it, so he books something else on after it to make sure that the fans don't go home disappointed. Or maybe there is another match on the card that people just plain want to see more, and if you don't put that match on last, the fans will be too drained from the other match to be into the world title match as much as they should (Triple H and Jericho did everything they could to convince Vince that Hogan vs. Rock should have main evented WM18 for this reason).

Why aren't the guys going on after the title match fighting for the title: because they have a personal issue that is so bitter that, to them, it is more important than the title.

[cero2k]

the problem i see is that some wrestlers eventually grow out of the title scene (in order to let other people shine) yet they need to be kept as the face of the company.

WWE needs to keep Cena as the face of the company no matter what, cuz he sells. but after many years of hogging the title scene, he needs to part away so that guys like Punk, del Rio, Sheamus, Orton can step up to the challenge. You can't simply throw Cena back to the mid-card or give him a break. You create a feud/angle for him, obviously since he needs to be kept as a mayor player (again, cuz he sells) such angle is bound to be huge and overshadow the world title, just because it has the face of the company as an actor and it will me promoted more. Every time that Cena has been away from the title in the last years, he gets a bigger angle than the title one. Cena vs Nexus, Cena vs Rock, Cena vs Lesnar.

so going back to the original question, I think it's more important to be in the main angle, than the title scene. Look what the nexus invasion did to guys like Barrett, Gabriel, Dragon. from the top of your head, you probably remember the members of team cena and nexus from Summerslam 2010, but can you remember what were the title matches?? no cheating!!

I made this question because of that, sure indy sweethearts dragon and punk are champs, but at the end of the day, people tune in to see Cena vs Rock and Taker/Trips/HBK.

[Big Red Machine]

so going back to the original question, I think it's more important to be in the main angle, than the title scene. Look what the nexus invasion did to guys like Barrett, Gabriel, Dragon. from the top of your head, you probably remember the members of team cena and nexus from Summerslam 2010, but can you remember what were the title matches?? no cheating!!

Orton vs. Sheamus on Raw and Kane vs. Rey
Team WWE: Cena, Dragon, Edge, Jericho, R-Truth, Bret Hart, & ?

The members of Nexus were Barrett, Gabriel, Slater, Otunga, Sheffield, Darren Young, & ... okay. I don't remember the last one.

But to be fair, it took me longer to come up with Rey vs. Kane than it did for me to come up with the members of eahc team I got... but I think that the Nexus invasion and things like it are the exception to the rule. Something that major SHOULD be more important than the world title.

[cero2k]

so going back to the original question, I think it's more important to be in the main angle, than the title scene. Look what the nexus invasion did to guys like Barrett, Gabriel, Dragon. from the top of your head, you probably remember the members of team cena and nexus from Summerslam 2010, but can you remember what were the title matches?? no cheating!!

Orton vs. Sheamus on Raw and Kane vs. Rey
Team WWE: Cena, Dragon, Edge, Jericho, R-Truth, Bret Hart, & ?

The members of Nexus were Barrett, Gabriel, Slater, Otunga, Sheffield, Darren Young, & ... okay. I don't remember the last one.

But to be fair, it took me longer to come up with Rey vs. Kane than it did for me to come up with the members of eahc team I got... but I think that the Nexus invasion and things like it are the exception to the rule. Something that major SHOULD be more important than the world title.

you forgot morrison

i'm not saying that Nexus shouldn't have been bigger than the title scene, but if you're a wrestler, it was worth more being part of Cena vs Nexus than being in the title scene. my point being that it's more important to be in the main angle than the title angle considering they're not the same

[badnewzxl]

so going back to the original question, I think it's more important to be in the main angle, than the title scene. Look what the nexus invasion did to guys like Barrett, Gabriel, Dragon. from the top of your head, you probably remember the members of team cena and nexus from Summerslam 2010, but can you remember what were the title matches?? no cheating!!

Orton vs. Sheamus on Raw and Kane vs. Rey
Team WWE: Cena, Dragon, Edge, Jericho, R-Truth, Bret Hart, & ?

The members of Nexus were Barrett, Gabriel, Slater, Otunga, Sheffield, Darren Young, & ... okay. I don't remember the last one.

But to be fair, it took me longer to come up with Rey vs. Kane than it did for me to come up with the members of eahc team I got... but I think that the Nexus invasion and things like it are the exception to the rule. Something that major SHOULD be more important than the world title.

lol, the other member of team WWE was Sheamus; the guy you forgot for Nexus was Tarver (easily forgettable, lol)

[cero2k]

Orton vs. Sheamus on Raw and Kane vs. Rey
Team WWE: Cena, Dragon, Edge, Jericho, R-Truth, Bret Hart, & ?

The members of Nexus were Barrett, Gabriel, Slater, Otunga, Sheffield, Darren Young, & ... okay. I don't remember the last one.

But to be fair, it took me longer to come up with Rey vs. Kane than it did for me to come up with the members of eahc team I got... but I think that the Nexus invasion and things like it are the exception to the rule. Something that major SHOULD be more important than the world title.

lol, the other member of team WWE was Sheamus; the guy you forgot for Nexus was Tarver (easily forgettable, lol)

it was morrison, sheamus was champ and lost to Orton

[badnewzxl]

Orton vs. Sheamus on Raw and Kane vs. Rey
Team WWE: Cena, Dragon, Edge, Jericho, R-Truth, Bret Hart, & ?

The members of Nexus were Barrett, Gabriel, Slater, Otunga, Sheffield, Darren Young, & ... okay. I don't remember the last one.

But to be fair, it took me longer to come up with Rey vs. Kane than it did for me to come up with the members of eahc team I got... but I think that the Nexus invasion and things like it are the exception to the rule. Something that major SHOULD be more important than the world title.

lol, the other member of team WWE was Sheamus; the guy you forgot for Nexus was Tarver (easily forgettable, lol)

it was morrison, sheamus was champ and lost to Orton

oh yeah; I thought Morrison was a part of it, but I was sure Sheamus was too. I remembered that night when Nexus threatened Sheamus and he just ran away from them like a bitch; then he joined Cena and the others in the ring at the end of the show in a standoff AGAINST Nexus. For some reason I thought that was the Monday before Summerslam....