Colt Cabana New NWA Heavyweight Champ?

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Colt Cabana New NWA Heavyweight Champ?

Post by kirbs2002 » Mar 6th, '11, 22:17

I put this here because I don't have a verifiable "news" source for this yet, but apparently at tonight's NWA Hollywood tapings Colt Cabana has beaten Adam Pearce to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. I heard about this from IWantWrestling.com, who also accompanied their blurb with this video:

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Post by badnewzxl » Mar 6th, '11, 23:25

That's pretty cool!
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Post by yourcrapsweak » Mar 6th, '11, 23:48

Good for him! But honestly, what does it take to become NWA Champ now-a-days?
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Re: Colt Cabana New NWA Heavyweight Champ?

Post by Chris Everlast » Mar 7th, '11, 00:00

Not much.. Since you never hear about NWA world champs anymore (from this decade atleast.)
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Post by badnewzxl » Mar 7th, '11, 05:48

yourcrapsweak wrote:Good for him! But honestly, what does it take to become NWA Champ now-a-days?
Since TNA broke away, the only NWA world champs there've been are Adam Pearce (I think about three times), Brent Albright (who beat Pearce to end Pearce's first reign), Blue Demon Jr. (who beat Pearce to end Pearce's second reign), and now Cabana. I'm not a huge Blue Demon Jr. fan but those other three guys are pretty solid.
Chris Everlast wrote:Not much.. Since you never hear about NWA world champs anymore (from this decade atleast.)
Well, from 2002 til TNA broke away in 2007 we did; and as I mentioned above, there hasn't been much title exchanges in the past four years so there isn't much to report anyhow. You never hear about the NWA champs when the titles aren't being defended on tv (see 93 til 2002)
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Post by Rabid619 » Mar 7th, '11, 05:54

Good for him
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Post by Lynas » Mar 7th, '11, 06:04

That's cool. It looks like it was a damn good party too...

We may not hear so much about the NWA belt these days... but it's still a pretty prestigious belt.

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Post by cero2k » Mar 7th, '11, 11:24

finally someone gave this guy a world heavyweight title. I'm glad for him.

the NWA title, may not be defended as often, but it's still a prestigious title
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Post by Lynas » Mar 7th, '11, 14:49

cero2k wrote:the NWA title, may not be defended as often, but it's still a prestigious title
That's why I find it prestigious...

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Post by ECWFlairfan » Mar 7th, '11, 18:22

Lynas wrote:
cero2k wrote:the NWA title, may not be defended as often, but it's still a prestigious title
That's why I find it prestigious...
The NWA WORLD championship is the only "world" tile actually defended around the world against truly international competition... when is the last time the TNA World title or either of the WWE "world" titles were defended against a wrestler of another nationality in his native land (& not part of the company's lineup)

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Post by cero2k » Mar 7th, '11, 18:30

ECWFlairfan wrote:
Lynas wrote:
cero2k wrote:the NWA title, may not be defended as often, but it's still a prestigious title
That's why I find it prestigious...
The NWA WORLD championship is the only "world" tile actually defended around the world against truly international competition... when is the last time the TNA World title or either of the WWE "world" titles were defended against a wrestler of another nationality in his native land (& not part of the company's lineup)
you could say the same about the IWGP
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Post by ECWFlairfan » Mar 7th, '11, 18:32

cero2k wrote:
ECWFlairfan wrote:The NWA WORLD championship is the only "world" tile actually defended around the world against truly international competition... when is the last time the TNA World title or either of the WWE "world" titles were defended against a wrestler of another nationality in his native land (& not part of the company's lineup)
you could say the same about the IWGP
I was talking about American companies... but I'll give you IWGP... WAY more than WWE or TNA...

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Post by Rabid619 » Mar 7th, '11, 19:03

ECWFlairfan wrote:I was talking about American companies... but I'll give you IWGP... WAY more than WWE or TNA...
Its a world title and its defended elsewhere. You kinda have to give it to him....
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Post by ECWFlairfan » Mar 7th, '11, 19:12

Rabid619 wrote:
ECWFlairfan wrote:I was talking about American companies... but I'll give you IWGP... WAY more than WWE or TNA...
Its a world title and its defended elsewhere. You kinda have to give it to him....
hence why I am saying Colt Cabana accomplished something major here...

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Post by Lynas » Mar 8th, '11, 02:10

ECWFlairfan wrote: when is the last time the TNA World title or either of the WWE "world" titles were defended against a wrestler of another nationality in his native land (& not part of the company's lineup)

TNA'sWorld Heavyweight Championship was defended by Jeff Hardy vs Tetsuya Naito at the Tokyo Dome on January 4th

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Post by cero2k » Mar 9th, '11, 12:22

Lynas wrote:
ECWFlairfan wrote: when is the last time the TNA World title or either of the WWE "world" titles were defended against a wrestler of another nationality in his native land (& not part of the company's lineup)

TNA'sWorld Heavyweight Championship was defended by Jeff Hardy vs Tetsuya Naito at the Tokyo Dome on January 4th
actually, doesn't the TNA title get defended against a NJPW guy on every Global IMpact?
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Post by ECWFlairfan » Mar 11th, '11, 20:05

cero2k wrote:
Lynas wrote:
ECWFlairfan wrote: when is the last time the TNA World title or either of the WWE "world" titles were defended against a wrestler of another nationality in his native land (& not part of the company's lineup)

TNA'sWorld Heavyweight Championship was defended by Jeff Hardy vs Tetsuya Naito at the Tokyo Dome on January 4th
actually, doesn't the TNA title get defended against a NJPW guy on every Global IMpact?
And when is the last time it was seriously in jeopardy on that show?

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Re: Colt Cabana New NWA Heavyweight Champ?

Post by Big Red Machine » Mar 11th, '11, 23:05

ECWFlairfan wrote:
And when is the last time it was seriously in jeopardy on that show?
Never! It' a WORK!
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Re: Colt Cabana New NWA Heavyweight Champ?

Post by Lynas » Mar 15th, '11, 09:50

Big Red Machine wrote:
ECWFlairfan wrote:
And when is the last time it was seriously in jeopardy on that show?
Never! It' a WORK!
Lol! A company like TNA is never gonna have their belt lost to another international company, but thats besides the point... in kayfabe terms it IS defended globally against global stars outside their own company... it answered the point you raised.

It's "jeopardy" and its "likelihood" of passing to another company isn't a factor here.

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Re: Colt Cabana New NWA Heavyweight Champ?

Post by Big Red Machine » Mar 15th, '11, 18:18

WWE and TNA's belts are defended outside of the US (or if you are being picky, the US and Canada) every time that they do an overseas tour. The same with indy belts.
And I hardly think it is fair to blame an indy company for this, because traveling abroad requires money, so doing so is rarely in that company's best interests (on a side note, I think one place where it has worked remarkably well is ROH in the UK, which is a lot like WWE in the UK in the early 90's. I can't figure out why they haven't been back in four years). Furthermore, indies have a lot less exposure than WWE and TNA, so going to a totally new market is risky enough... but going somewhere you don't speak the local language almost triples the risk because the people won't be able to understand the angles (CZW was pretty ballsy in going to Germany recently... and they did defend their belt there).

Indy wrestlers also don't have a lot of money, so traveling overseas for likely not much money isn't feasible for them. And most companies (understandably) do not let their champion lose outside of the company (the blow-off between Danielson & Morishima had to be put on hold for an entire year because Morishima won the GHC World Title), so in many cases, foreign companies might not want to book them, unless they are a huge name like Hero, Danielson, or Aries.
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