NJPW reveals stipulations for upcoming KOPW qualifying matches

[cero2k]

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NJPW has detailed the stipulations and voting methods for the upcoming KOPW qualifying matches that will take place on August 26.

The company held a press conference this morning that was streamed on NJPW World. Kazuchika Okada was at the press conference to announce the stipulations the participants have chosen for their upcoming matches:

Satoshi Kojima has chosen a finisher’s only match, where Kojima’s lariat or El Desperado’s Pinche Loco will lead to a win. Desperado has chosen the opposite, a no finisher’s match where the lariat or Pinche Loco will lead to a disqualification.

Toru Yano has chosen a two count pinfall match, where a two count pinfall will lead to a win. BUSHI has chosen a five count ring out match, where wrestlers can only win by count out after the referee’s five count.

SHO has chosen a submission match, while SANADA has chosen a no pinfalls, give up only match. Therefore, this match has already been determined to be a submission match.

For Kazuchika Okada vs. Yujiro Takahashi, Okada has chosen a 1 vs. 3 handicap match. Yujiro has chosen a lumberjack match where belts can be used as weapons.

NJPW Global has put out polls for the three matches with stipulations still to be determined. The results will be announced next Monday, August 24.

The winners will face each other in a fatal four way match at Summer Struggle in Jingu on August 29, where the winner will become the first provisional champion. Whoever is champion at the end of the year will be named the 2020 KOPW champion.

[cero2k]

I'm perfectly ok with these type of stipulations for NJPW. Some of them actually sound cool

[Big Red Machine]

I don't like the Okada one and Yujiro ones, because Okada is a dumbass for picking a 0one on three match, and Yujiro is a dumbass for picking a match where he invites Okada's friends to come help him, which haven't been doing so far in the feud.

The others are wacky, but I have no logical problem with them.

[cero2k]

I don't like the Okada one and Yujiro ones, because Okada is a dumbass for picking a 0one on three match, and Yujiro is a dumbass for picking a match where he invites Okada's friends to come help him, which haven't been doing so far in the feud.

The others are wacky, but I have no logical problem with them.

More like Okada is confident in himself to be able to beat all three men. Yujiro doesn't specify that the lumberjacks are from CHAOS

[Big Red Machine]

I don't like the Okada one and Yujiro ones, because Okada is a dumbass for picking a 0one on three match, and Yujiro is a dumbass for picking a match where he invites Okada's friends to come help him, which haven't been doing so far in the feud.

The others are wacky, but I have no logical problem with them.

More like Okada is confident in himself to be able to beat all three men. Yujiro doesn't specify that the lumberjacks are from CHAOS

But surely some will be. If the stip was that Yujiro got to pick the lumberjacks, then that would have been stated.

[cero2k]

I don't like the Okada one and Yujiro ones, because Okada is a dumbass for picking a 0one on three match, and Yujiro is a dumbass for picking a match where he invites Okada's friends to come help him, which haven't been doing so far in the feud.

The others are wacky, but I have no logical problem with them.

More like Okada is confident in himself to be able to beat all three men. Yujiro doesn't specify that the lumberjacks are from CHAOS

But surely some will be. If the stip was that Yujiro got to pick the lumberjacks, then that would have been stated.

it's only fair that it'd be 50/50

[Big Red Machine]

More like Okada is confident in himself to be able to beat all three men. Yujiro doesn't specify that the lumberjacks are from CHAOS

But surely some will be. If the stip was that Yujiro got to pick the lumberjacks, then that would have been stated.

it's only fair that it'd be 50/50

Right. Which would give you 50% Okada's pals and 50% Yujiro's. But in the current situation, Yujiro's pals are the only ones who make it to ringside, so how does this stip help Yujiro if all it does is even the odds at ringside?

[cero2k]

Right. Which would give you 50% Okada's pals and 50% Yujiro's. But in the current situation, Yujiro's pals are the only ones who make it to ringside, so how does this stip help Yujiro if all it does is even the odds at ringside?

Yujiro probably thinks that there are more people who want to hurt Okada in the promotion than just BC, and that it's the belts that will hurt Okada, but i highly doubt this is a big lumberjack match, probably like 2-3 from each side.

I also don't think we have any reason to think that Yujiro of all people is smart. I didn't watch the match prior to the promo where he called for the Lumberjack match, but I know that Gedo had been using the belt and I could see the impression that Okada's promo made Yujiro get cocky for being underestimated by Okada.

[Big Red Machine]

Right. Which would give you 50% Okada's pals and 50% Yujiro's. But in the current situation, Yujiro's pals are the only ones who make it to ringside, so how does this stip help Yujiro if all it does is even the odds at ringside?

Yujiro probably thinks that there are more people who want to hurt Okada in the promotion than just BC, and that it's the belts that will hurt Okada, but i highly doubt this is a big lumberjack match, probably like 2-3 from each side.

And that's a completely unfounded assertion. And if it does turn out to be just 2-3 from each side, that proves my point that this is just Yujiro giving up an advantage for no reason.

I also don't think we have any reason to think that Yujiro of all people is smart. I didn't watch the match prior to the promo where he called for the Lumberjack match, but I know that Gedo had been using the belt and I could see the impression that Okada's promo made Yujiro get cocky for being underestimated by Okada.

Once you start using "well... we have no proof that this guy isn't an idiot" as an excuse, you can close up pretty much any plot-hole in any promotion, so it's basically invalid.
Also, I don't see the connection you're making here. Yujiro thinks Okada is overconfident, therefore Yujiro does something to surrender a totally unrelated advantage? How does that make any sense?

[cero2k]

Once you start using "well... we have no proof that this guy isn't an idiot" as an excuse, you can close up pretty much any plot-hole in any promotion, so it's basically invalid.
Also, I don't see the connection you're making here. Yujiro thinks Okada is overconfident, therefore Yujiro does something to surrender a totally unrelated advantage? How does that make any sense?

Because Yujiro doesn't see it as giving up the advantage, to him the inclusion of weapons and legal outside attacks is a benefit

[Big Red Machine]

Once you start using "well... we have no proof that this guy isn't an idiot" as an excuse, you can close up pretty much any plot-hole in any promotion, so it's basically invalid.
Also, I don't see the connection you're making here. Yujiro thinks Okada is overconfident, therefore Yujiro does something to surrender a totally unrelated advantage? How does that make any sense?

Because Yujiro doesn't see it as giving up the advantage, to him the inclusion of weapons and legal outside attacks is a benefit

But he's including those things in a way that allows Okada access to them as well, when the default state of their feud has been that Yujiro has already had access to these things and Okada hasn't.

[cero2k]

But he's including those things in a way that allows Okada access to them as well, when the default state of their feud has been that Yujiro has already had access to these things and Okada hasn't.

But aside from Yano, who could Okada bring that is not honorable and would resort to weapons?

[Big Red Machine]

But he's including those things in a way that allows Okada access to them as well, when the default state of their feud has been that Yujiro has already had access to these things and Okada hasn't.

But aside from Yano, who could Okada bring that is not honorable and would resort to weapons?

Anyone! Resorting to weapons is honorable if it's part of the rules. The babyface doesn't refrain fromm using weapons in a no DQs match.

[cero2k]

Anyone! Resorting to weapons is honorable if it's part of the rules. The babyface doesn't refrain fromm using weapons in a no DQs match.

that is not the way of the Samurai, you need to start playing Ghost of Tsushima

[Big Red Machine]

Anyone! Resorting to weapons is honorable if it's part of the rules. The babyface doesn't refrain fromm using weapons in a no DQs match.

that is not the way of the Samurai, you need to start playing Ghost of Tsushima

And how many of these f*ckers are samurai? Just Goto. It shouldn't stop YOSHI-HASHI or Tanahashi or Ishii or anyone else.

[cero2k]

And how many of these f*ckers are samurai? Just Goto. It shouldn't stop YOSHI-HASHI or Tanahashi or Ishii or anyone else.

Ishii, Goto, YH, SHO, Tanahashi, Yano, they're also all in matches that day

[Big Red Machine]

And how many of these f*ckers are samurai? Just Goto. It shouldn't stop YOSHI-HASHI or Tanahashi or Ishii or anyone else.

Ishii, Goto, YH, SHO, Tanahashi, Yano, they're also all in matches that day

So? They can still be lumberjacks, too. it's not that much work.

[cero2k]

So? They can still be lumberjacks, too. it's not that much work.

assuming they don't get their asses kicked, maybe

[Big Red Machine]

So? They can still be lumberjacks, too. it's not that much work.

assuming they don't get their asses kicked, maybe

I'm sure Okada has more than three friends. He can have some back-ups. He's f*cking Okada. Every babyface in the locker room should be fight fighting for the chance to be his back-up. Hulk Hogan and Dusty Rhodes never lacked for friends, and neither of them had a full stable behind them.


Or, if New Japan was doing things logically and that was a concern, they'd book the lumberjack match as the opener.

[cero2k]

I'm sure Okada has more than three friends. He can have some back-ups. He's f*cking Okada. Every babyface in the locker room should be fight fighting for the chance to be his back-up. Hulk Hogan and Dusty Rhodes never lacked for friends, and neither of them had a full stable behind them.


Or, if New Japan was doing things logically and that was a concern, they'd book the lumberjack match as the opener.

Okada has always been a cocky prick, aside from CHAOS and maaayybbeeeeeeee Tanahashi, he's not exactly a person with a ton of friends

We don't even know if the Lumberjack match will win, and booking it first would be less logical to have wrestlers to themselves in danger if they have matches of their own later. Everyone would be getting ready for their matches instead.