Whose Side Are You On?
Posted: Feb 28th, '12, 19:44
Wrestlemania 28 is fast approaching.
The Rock or John Cena?
Whose Side Are You On?
The Rock or John Cena?
Whose Side Are You On?
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That's not what he said at all. He said that nobody fought for them. Not that they only fought for themselves.badnewzxl wrote:the Rock.
Rock spoke on that in his promo yesterday, and I liked what he said. His point about how HHH and Taker and others didn't fight for anybody but themselves is exactly what I'm talking about.
will you explain to me how those are not virtually the same thing? Both phrases have the same connotation to me: the guys had to fight for themselves. If NOBODY fought for them, then THEY would have HAD to, right? I mean, if any of the guys wrestled for any of the other guys, then SOMEBODY would be fighting for somebody, wouldn't they? If Bob Holly was out there wrestling for Al Snow, then Al Snow had someone fighting for him.If everyone's fighting only for themselves, then no one would be fighting for anyone other than themselves, right? If everybody ONLY At least in the context of what Cena said, he is fighting for the guys in the back (i.e. he was representing THEM); as opposed to them representing themselves (like HHH, Taker, etc did in Rock's words).Big Red Machine wrote:That's not what he said at all. He said that nobody fought for them. Not that they only fought for themselves.badnewzxl wrote:the Rock.
Rock spoke on that in his promo yesterday, and I liked what he said. His point about how HHH and Taker and others didn't fight for anybody but themselves is exactly what I'm talking about.
What so said in the post I quoted was that guys like Triple H and Taker didn't fight for anyone but themselves. Meaning that they never fought on behalf of any other party (a injured friend, the fans, etc) What The Rock said (that nobody fought for them) means that they fought their own battles (meaning that Al Snow fought for Al Snow, rather than Bob Holly fighting for Al Snow). The two are different, but not mutually exclusive. One is who you are fighting on behalf of. The other is who is fighting your fights.badnewzxl wrote:will you explain to me how those are not virtually the same thing? Both phrases have the same connotation to me: the guys had to fight for themselves. If NOBODY fought for them, then THEY would have HAD to, right? I mean, if any of the guys wrestled for any of the other guys, then SOMEBODY would be fighting for somebody, wouldn't they? If Bob Holly was out there wrestling for Al Snow, then Al Snow had someone fighting for him.If everyone's fighting only for themselves, then no one would be fighting for anyone other than themselves, right? If everybody ONLY At least in the context of what Cena said, he is fighting for the guys in the back (i.e. he was representing THEM); as opposed to them representing themselves (like HHH, Taker, etc did in Rock's words).Big Red Machine wrote:That's not what he said at all. He said that nobody fought for them. Not that they only fought for themselves.badnewzxl wrote:the Rock.
Rock spoke on that in his promo yesterday, and I liked what he said. His point about how HHH and Taker and others didn't fight for anybody but themselves is exactly what I'm talking about.
Not at all. They are different concepts. In this case, they are the same, but in many cases they are not. They are two different factors.badnewzxl wrote:those two phrases have FAR to much in common to be "not at all" the same. The answer to both those questions could be the very same answer (and in this situation, it is. When the Rock said nobody fought for HHH and Taker, he was implying that they fought for themselves. I figured that was the context of what Cena was saying, since he was talking about his upcoming match with the Rock when he said HE was fighting for all the guys in the back, right?).
If you're fighting on behalf of yourself, then YOU are fighting your fights, are you not? Just a little too much the same to be considered completely different, don't you think?
Well, since it's the case in this instance, what was the point of bringing up a point that's irrelevant?Big Red Machine wrote:Not at all. They are different concepts. In this case, they are the same, but in many cases they are not. They are two different factors.badnewzxl wrote:those two phrases have FAR to much in common to be "not at all" the same. The answer to both those questions could be the very same answer (and in this situation, it is. When the Rock said nobody fought for HHH and Taker, he was implying that they fought for themselves. I figured that was the context of what Cena was saying, since he was talking about his upcoming match with the Rock when he said HE was fighting for all the guys in the back, right?).
If you're fighting on behalf of yourself, then YOU are fighting your fights, are you not? Just a little too much the same to be considered completely different, don't you think?
would anybody remind me of what these supposed questions were? all I heard was Cena go on and on about how much he shows he loves the WWE. I don't remember any questions besides the one about Rock leaving after saying he wouldn't...Lynas wrote:TEAM CENA
John Cena's told the truth throughout, asked questions of The Rock only to be ignored and have some 90's catchphrases thrown at him..
I was wondering if we were going to be able to turn you to the Light Side, but apparently not.Earth Child wrote:I'm going to stand by my statement from before: Neither. But if I HAD to pick one, The Rock, just becasue I really can't stand Cena.
Oh Dark Side through and through BRM.Big Red Machine wrote:I was wondering if we were going to be able to turn you to the Light Side, but apparently not.Earth Child wrote:I'm going to stand by my statement from before: Neither. But if I HAD to pick one, The Rock, just becasue I really can't stand Cena.
badnewzxl wrote:the Rock.
The guy had a dream to be a WWE Superstar and he lived that dream out to it's fullest! He did everything he had to to make that dream a reality. I'm sure it wasn't the only dream he had in life, so I don't blame him for putting as much effort into accomplishing his other aspirations as he put into becoming a wrestler. That's why Cena's promo from last week came off as desperately clawing for support. Rock spoke on that in his promo yesterday, and I liked what he said. His point about how HHH and Taker and others didn't fight for anybody but themselves is exactly what I'm talking about. Cena HAS to have the crowd behind him (his promos on the Rock all talk about why ppl shouldn't like the Rock; he's Hollywood, he does't really care about our business, he's never here) while the fans religiously follow the Rock (he doesn't try to justify dislike for Cena; he simply expresses his dislike for the guy, insults the hell out of him, and has fun with the audience to get them behind him)!
Rock comes off as honest; brutally honest and that's what I've always liked about the guy.
Cena comes off as righteous; everything he does has to be "right" and that's what I've always hated about him....