cero2k wrote: ↑Aug 13th, '19, 17:55I like the multi-person matches. I get to watch more people at a time to familiarize with them at a decent, I don't, think we need to know every thing about every one on day 1. If there is something i learned from Lucha Underground, is that introduce wrestlers with multi man matches, put the spotlight with single matches. It's not over saturation to get a taste of everything first, and then get to know them one by one.
We'll have to agree to disagree it seems like. This is why I thought FF was a better show than DON : because they showcased their young talent a lot better than just stacking them in a couple of matches.
As for the vignettes, every road to show has done something along those lines. The latest one was about Rose. As people become relevant to the promotion, they'll get their spotlight.
Call me old-fashioned (NOOO!!!), but they should put those on the shows themselves and not just on Youtube or social media in general.
Jericho is, and will forever be a superstar, you just don't pop when you see him. It's the Vince McMahon problem, people are star-struck regardless of the opinion before the show.
Even if you remove Jericho from the equation, Page got a pretty weak pop when he came out to face Sabian. Just like Baker, he desperately needs some kind of character/gimmick besides "he's kinda a member of the Elite, but not really judging by the fans' reaction". The only time he had a compelling gimmick was when he was in the Decade with Whitmer as his manager/mentor, and that was five years ago at this point.
ROH has a lot more issues beyond what they sell. It's ok that you won't get all those fans to fly in, but you do want to make sure that the one that do, make a lot of noise and make the show seem like fun and a bigger deal so that the people watching on tv will want to go to the show next time they're close by. These pops are what made PWG and NXT be super popular for a while, fans were making the shows seem like the place to be and the wrestler just had to deliver. This is what every promotion should be smart about wrestling, as much as they may like an act, if the fans hate it, you either take it off, or use them for your benefit. These guys are already aware that the Librarians are not liked, so they make fun of the gimmick in BTE and i'm confident they'll use the gimmick to get some heat or end up taking it away.
I don't have any confidence in what the Bucks and Omega are doing frankly. Cody is also pretty self-indulgent and thinks he's a much better worker than he actually is, but he does seem to take this shit seriously and is willing to show ass to get people over (should do it for someone who isn't Shawn Spears though, but he's doing it at least).
What's the point you're asking? If the creative direction veers more towards Omega/Bucks, AEW will become a bigger budget PWG/indy show; if it veers more towards Cody, AEW will become a strong opponent to NXT.
Do they really claim that they're all about 'serious competition'? I think that's a claim that even Kaiji Big Battel may do. So what if it was the first match, how can people damn a whole promotion just because they started a pre-show with Non-Cornette Approved wrestling? They finished the show with 3 AMAZING matches, a hell of an angle, and people still hang on a dude with no legs because "they're killing the business" "how dare they do comedy!" "fuck Cody Rhodes!". Seriously, that's just trying to hate on the product for whatever reason.
Wasn't that one of their big selling points that "wins and losses would matter [unlike other promotions]"? Granted, I never bought it in the first place because just look at who's in charge (well, mostly the Bucks and Omega). Hell, they were already not enforcing their own new rule (the ten seconds after a tag thing) during THE FIRST TAG MATCH.
The main issue with the stupid battle royale, besides being the most indyriffic trash in the world, was that the serious stipulation exposed most of their "stars" as just a bunch of indy clowns doing indy shit to pop the crowd. Of course, it didn't help that the next thing they put on screen was that putrid librarian skit, then a generic cruiserweight match. That hardly screamed REVOLUTION and whatever grandiose claims they're spewing on a regular basis.
MLW doesn't have women's wrestling
Yes, and?
you're just saying the AEW roster is bad by default.
Their female roster isn't that bad, it's mostly horrendously booked. Again, you can do something with Baker as the babyface hero with Shida as #2 and Rae as #3 battling monster heel Rose and Priestley/Allie as #2 and #3 heels (or vice versa). But of course not, gotta have not-Stephanie with Meh Kong and two bland/mediocre joshi in the mix.
Yeah, small joshi may be dime a dozen, but when you pack a bunch together, you can make a hell of a roster like Stardom or Ice Ribbon or Sendai Girls have.
I probably should have added "mediocre" or "bleh" somewhere. Also, that kinda proves my point about those girls being exposed when they're facing bigger, better opponents. Not all of them are Kana/Hojo/Shirai/Iwatani/Watanabe/Shida.
And the ones that hopefully will start watching on TV. Baker is a good role model, for kids, teenagers, and adults. Hell, she should be a role model to every wrestler that won't have something to fall back to if they need to retire.
Or she could be an ass about it and rub it off everyone's face. This is the point I'm trying to make about her not having a gimmick/character : just being a dentist by itself means nothing if you don't use it in any particular way. Have her cut a promo about how she would like to become a role model and FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS or whatever, or be a pretentious jerk who thinks she's better than us because "I have a medical degree and can kick your ass, what do YOU have, loser?".
because so far, it's been three shows with good matches, far better than Su Yung and Rosemary have. None of them may be able to touch Tessa, Taya, Jordynne, or Gail, but they're not abysmal as you're trying to make them seem. No one is expecting for AEW to be a 5-star machine, that'd be just delusional.
*checks his reviews*
4-way at DON : buries own monster heel straight away with another bigger, more established (and older and barely mobile) one; Brandi is a focal point of attention for some ungodly reason and her role isn't clear at all (at that time); match should have just been Rae vs. Baker or the original 3-way - **
Joshi trios match at DON : good action, no one stood out though - ***
Bates vs. Allie at FF : eyes burn after seeing Allie come out all happy and smiley, then took sick pleasure hurting Bates' finger in the first spot of the match and taunting her afterwards with an evil face; Bates is still horrendous and can't lead a match as a heel without slowing everything down to a halt; match goes three times faster anytime Allie is in control; finish was dumb; turn them both so we can have the good, more useful version of those two - *
3-way at FF : Sakazaki should be the Bayley of AEW; first five minutes are great with Rose molesting those two kids, but then she has to sell the weakest offense imaginable; least interesting person in the match wins by pinning the big monster because that's how they built up Vader back in the day, right?; actually feel bad for Sakazaki and her sad face - *** (probably more **1/2 frankly, but eh)
Tag match at FftF :
first viewing without knowing about the concussion -> Priestley looks tremendous and like she wants to murder her opponents (yeah...); they work it like a traditional tag match with Riho eating heat for a while and building up the hot tag to Baker, but then she cold tags in in the middle of nowhere and the match fell off a cliff with the four of them sloppily doing moves with no rhyme or reason until the finish; there's an embarrasing forearm exchange between the two joshi in the middle of this, but the crowd is hot for a future Baker vs. Priestley match at least - *
second viewing knowing about the concussion -> Priestley should probably tone it down a little and here's the kick to the head with Baker going to the wrong corner straight after; this is where the traditional tag segment kicks in because Baker is in her corner trying to shake it off and this part probably wasn't supposed to happen in the first place, even though it was the only redeeming part of the match and the crowd was into it (crazy how that works, but I digress); rest of the match is the same
Allie vs. Brandi at FftF : yeah, let's burn months of potential storyline in five minutes for a dumb swerve; Brandi sucks and Allie should be a heel; finish is beyond awful with Brandi YELLING at Allie to get into position for her spear; an embarrassment of epic proportion because, as Brandi said in her video package : "It's about ME" - DUD (should be negative)