Re: BOTB: Promoton Name
Posted: Jan 3rd, '11, 15:23
National Wrestling Alliance
Ring of Honor
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I'm going to say something that I've been thinking for a while: The NWA was never a promotion until very recently. It was a group of promotions that split up the area for thier own business gain. No one ever wen to the "NWA Show"- they went to the "JCP show," or the "WCCW show" or the "Stampede show" or the "CWF show" or the "Big Time Wrestling show."ECWFlairfan wrote:National Wrestling Alliance
it's confusing though, seeing as that they had so many titles that were named simply NWA World, World tag team, tv, tv tag team, jr. heaveyweight, U.S., etc. And the wrestlers always referred to it as a promotion. I always thought they looked at it sorta the same way WWE does with RAw and SD! now, and WWECW when they had it: the WWE is a promotion made up of several other promotions (though WWE uses the term "brands" bc their approach is different). All the promotions under the umbrella of the NWA help create the NWA promotionBig Red Machine wrote:I'm going to say something that I've been thinking for a while: The NWA was never a promotion until very recently. It was a group of promotions that split up the area for thier own business gain. No one ever wen to the "NWA Show"- they went to the "JCP show," or the "WCCW show" or the "Stampede show" or the "CWF show" or the "Big Time Wrestling show."ECWFlairfan wrote:National Wrestling Alliance
THOSE were the promotions. The NWA was not a promotion.
so then, WWE isn't a promotion? They share titles but have two different rosters.yourcrapsweak wrote:The National Wrestling Alliance was not a promotion itself, but a group of promotions who worked together and shared titles, hence "Alliance."
i think the difference would be whether there is a promoter for each brand, or in the case of NWA, each smaller territory.badnewzxl wrote:so then, WWE isn't a promotion? They share titles but have two different rosters.yourcrapsweak wrote:The National Wrestling Alliance was not a promotion itself, but a group of promotions who worked together and shared titles, hence "Alliance."
The difference is that, in the case of WWE, the divide is kayfabe. In the case of the NWA, it wasn't.cero2k wrote:i think the difference would be whether there is a promoter for each brand, or in the case of NWA, each smaller territory.badnewzxl wrote:so then, WWE isn't a promotion? They share titles but have two different rosters.yourcrapsweak wrote:The National Wrestling Alliance was not a promotion itself, but a group of promotions who worked together and shared titles, hence "Alliance."
That is a very interesting way of looking at it that I hadn't considered.badnewzxl wrote:it's confusing though, seeing as that they had so many titles that were named simply NWA World, World tag team, tv, tv tag team, jr. heaveyweight, U.S., etc. And the wrestlers always referred to it as a promotion. I always thought they looked at it sorta the same way WWE does with RAw and SD! now, and WWECW when they had it: the WWE is a promotion made up of several other promotions (though WWE uses the term "brands" bc their approach is different). All the promotions under the umbrella of the NWA help create the NWA promotionBig Red Machine wrote: I'm going to say something that I've been thinking for a while: The NWA was never a promotion until very recently. It was a group of promotions that split up the area for thier own business gain. No one ever wen to the "NWA Show"- they went to the "JCP show," or the "WCCW show" or the "Stampede show" or the "CWF show" or the "Big Time Wrestling show."
THOSE were the promotions. The NWA was not a promotion.
That probably has to do with a "controversial" finish. There's a few defenses by Lou Thesz that were hotly contested for the NWA World Title, where that specific territory hosting the defense recognized the challenger as having won the match. This was likely done to setup a rematch.badnewzxl wrote:wait. There were other NWA World Tag Team Champs when say the Midnight Express were NWA World Tag Team Champs? then why is there one history of those belts just as there is for the NWA World title? I mean, when Tully and Arn were tag champs, they were THE NWA World Tag Team champs, right?
Because those were the Mid-Atlantic versions of the belts. When Crockett bought everyone else up, didn't use their titles. His became the ones that WCW used, and were the only "NWA World Tag Team TItles" left when WCW split, so that is what the NWA has been using ever since.badnewzxl wrote:wait. There were other NWA World Tag Team Champs when say the Midnight Express were NWA World Tag Team Champs? then why is there one history of those belts just as there is for the NWA World title? I mean, when Tully and Arn were tag champs, they were THE NWA World Tag Team champs, right?
Oh; thanx for clearing that up for me. Me and Mr. hongry hughes have been wondering why the NWA Tag Title history was so much shorter in the PWI Almanac than we expected.Big Red Machine wrote:Because those were the Mid-Atlantic versions of the belts. When Crockett bought everyone else up, didn't use their titles. His became the ones that WCW used, and were the only "NWA World Tag Team TItles" left when WCW split, so that is what the NWA has been using ever since.badnewzxl wrote:wait. There were other NWA World Tag Team Champs when say the Midnight Express were NWA World Tag Team Champs? then why is there one history of those belts just as there is for the NWA World title? I mean, when Tully and Arn were tag champs, they were THE NWA World Tag Team champs, right?