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Re: Two matches, contract signing announced for WWE SmackDown

Post by Serujuunin » Feb 26th, '19, 09:12

cero2k wrote: Feb 26th, '19, 08:54
Serujuunin wrote: Feb 25th, '19, 19:29
I think that once Aleister and Ricochet did what they were going to do, it would 100% be within his character to just say "I'm done" and walk away. You could also make it so that they ultimately lose and Ricochet is the one to take the pin, then Aleister gets mad about it, but he's the kind of character that isn't necessarily forgiving, but it's his gimmick to refocus, set his sights, and go. Moody isn't the best word to use to describe him, because to me it seems like he is 100% in control of his emotions at any time- even after the match with Gargano at War Games II, he was pissed yeah, but he won the match and was over it, until Gargano got in his face again. Moody is not the right word. Enigmatic, maybe, or unreadable, but not moody. And I feel like he's always been respectful, by his own definition of respect, only that he sees everyone in the ring with him as an obstacle.
I agree that he's a respectful type of guy, but to me I see that guy that doesn't play along with others either and he shouldn't even need to. And character aside, the idea that in his second RAW is already being put into a random tag team, (with large consequences since they defeated the Revival), kinda tells me that once again, people get called up with nothing to do, and that goes for Ricochet too, one week he's defending Balor, the next he's for some reason teaming with Black. I'm not saying that they should be fighting for titles, this makes no sense at all.

Black is an awesome wrestler and all, but he has zero of the aura he had in NXT.
Oh I am not disagreeing with you at all. All I’m saying is that it doesn’t fit his character to feud with Ricochet post-tag team. He definitely needed to be shot right into a singles title contention but we also don’t want to take it from Finn so quick either... so the timing is just bad.

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Re: Two matches, contract signing announced for WWE SmackDown

Post by Bob-O » Feb 26th, '19, 10:21

cero2k wrote: Feb 26th, '19, 08:54 And character aside, the idea that in his second RAW is already being put into a random tag team, (with large consequences since they defeated the Revival), kinda tells me that once again, people get called up with nothing to do, and that goes for Ricochet too, one week he's defending Balor, the next he's for some reason teaming with Black. I'm not saying that they should be fighting for titles, this makes no sense at all.

Black is an awesome wrestler and all, but he has zero of the aura he had in NXT.
The frustrating thing about it, and WWE has a lot of guys like this, but Black and Ricochet are two that ABSOLUTELY would get over on their own with 5-10 minutes a week. They're not storyline dependent. WWE has, like, 500 performers under contract and they can't find any jobbers to feed to the new guys? The Tag Team Champions were the best option... to lay down for a hodge podge team of two new singles guys... gotcha.

It's counter productive. We need to know what to expect from an individual before any adversity becomes interesting. We need to know the boundaries to know when they're being crossed. How do we know how competitive something is before it's defined? Are Aleister and Ricochet THAT GOOD of a team, or is The Revival THAT BAD. We have no idea because one half of the contest is still undefined.
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Re: Two matches, contract signing announced for WWE SmackDown

Post by Big Red Machine » Feb 26th, '19, 12:16

cero2k wrote: Feb 26th, '19, 08:54
Serujuunin wrote: Feb 25th, '19, 19:29
I think that once Aleister and Ricochet did what they were going to do, it would 100% be within his character to just say "I'm done" and walk away. You could also make it so that they ultimately lose and Ricochet is the one to take the pin, then Aleister gets mad about it, but he's the kind of character that isn't necessarily forgiving, but it's his gimmick to refocus, set his sights, and go. Moody isn't the best word to use to describe him, because to me it seems like he is 100% in control of his emotions at any time- even after the match with Gargano at War Games II, he was pissed yeah, but he won the match and was over it, until Gargano got in his face again. Moody is not the right word. Enigmatic, maybe, or unreadable, but not moody. And I feel like he's always been respectful, by his own definition of respect, only that he sees everyone in the ring with him as an obstacle.
I agree that he's a respectful type of guy, but to me I see that guy that doesn't play along with others either and he shouldn't even need to. And character aside, the idea that in his second RAW is already being put into a random tag team, (with large consequences since they defeated the Revival), kinda tells me that once again, people get called up with nothing to do, and that goes for Ricochet too, one week he's defending Balor, the next he's for some reason teaming with Black. I'm not saying that they should be fighting for titles, this makes no sense at all.

Black is an awesome wrestler and all, but he has zero of the aura he had in NXT.

I don't think it's fair to say that this is a "random" team. I don't think they're put them over the champs if they didn't have an idea.
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Re: Two matches, contract signing announced for WWE SmackDown

Post by cero2k » Feb 26th, '19, 12:34

Big Red Machine wrote: Feb 26th, '19, 12:16
I don't think it's fair to say that this is a "random" team. I don't think they're put them over the champs if they didn't have an idea.
they are totally random, nothing in common between them, there was no build up to teaming up, not a single angle to do so, and I know about the NXT thing, but they already told me with Ciampa that I shouldn't think it's the same stories anyway. We can't even say that Black and Ricochet teamed out of a common foe because neither have ever crossed paths with the revival. They have an idea of a multiteam match at Fastlane, but I don't see any long term plans with them.
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Re: Two matches, contract signing announced for WWE SmackDown

Post by Big Red Machine » Feb 26th, '19, 12:42

cero2k wrote: Feb 26th, '19, 12:34
Big Red Machine wrote: Feb 26th, '19, 12:16
I don't think it's fair to say that this is a "random" team. I don't think they're put them over the champs if they didn't have an idea.
they are totally random, nothing in common between them, there was no build up to teaming up, not a single angle to do so, and I know about the NXT thing, but they already told me with Ciampa that I shouldn't think it's the same stories anyway. We can't even say that Black and Ricochet teamed out of a common foe because neither have ever crossed paths with the revival. They have an idea of a multiteam match at Fastlane, but I don't see any long term plans with them.
In the sense that they have nothing in common they are random, but that happens fairly frequently in WWE with newly-introduced acts (which, if you are arguing that NXT should be discounted, they are). But I don't think it's fair to call the idea for these matches random because they clearly have a plan in mind. I certainly don't think it's a good one, but it's not like they are totally floundering for direction like with the other recent set of call-ups.
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Re: Two matches, contract signing announced for WWE SmackDown

Post by cero2k » Feb 26th, '19, 13:07

Big Red Machine wrote: Feb 26th, '19, 12:42
In the sense that they have nothing in common they are random, but that happens fairly frequently in WWE with newly-introduced acts (which, if you are arguing that NXT should be discounted, they are). But I don't think it's fair to call the idea for these matches random because they clearly have a plan in mind. I certainly don't think it's a good one, but it's not like they are totally floundering for direction like with the other recent set of call-ups.
then I think we kinda agree, i'm not saying they're directionless lost in limbo, but the direction they have makes no sense. Random pairings shouldn't be getting title shots just like that, like Bob-O said, make us care about each guy and tells us why they're pairing up, why the pairing is stronger than the actual champs, all that.
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