Big Red Machine wrote: ↑Dec 2nd, '18, 16:25 The Usos.

Big Red Machine wrote: ↑Dec 2nd, '18, 16:25 The Usos.

Bob-O wrote: ↑Dec 2nd, '18, 17:22

Big Red Machine wrote: ↑Dec 2nd, '18, 16:25 The Usos.

This.

I'll throw New Day and The Bludgeon Brothers in there. I know New Day is technically a stable, but I think it applies.

I don't think teams like Kane and anyone, or even ones like The Bar count. These are the kinds of teams that hold the traditional teams back. Guys that are, and likely always will be, defined by their singles work with little to no repackaging.

Rob Van Dam tells a great story about teaming up with Kane... something along the lines of:
"I looked at the card and saw Kane and I were teaming, and said 'cool' I like Kane, that'll be fun! Then the next night, I saw they had us teaming again and said "Oh ok, we must be a tag team now!"

Killer Elite Squad feels like this, too. They're good, Dozer, not the goofs you remember - but I can't get past one being a clean-cut fighter and the other being a biker. But when I first saw them again a few months ago, I was shocked WWE hadn't brought them back yet... except I think Hoyt burnt his bridge... I don't remember what happened, but I feel like his exit from the company wasn't a smooth one...

KILLdozer wrote: ↑Dec 2nd, '18, 19:26 The new day are the literally the blueprint of "comedy goofs" btw. But also, seemingly one of the only teams they actually really care about. Dang that Rowan for getting injured!

Bob-O wrote: ↑Dec 3rd, '18, 05:03

KILLdozer wrote: ↑Dec 2nd, '18, 19:26 The new day are the literally the blueprint of "comedy goofs" btw. But also, seemingly one of the only teams they actually really care about. Dang that Rowan for getting injured!

Comedy Goofs that get it done, though. I see The New Day on more of an "Edge and Christian" level and less a "Santino and Kozlov" level...

cero2k wrote: ↑Dec 3rd, '18, 08:20 don't you guys forget that New Day got over despite WWE, their first gimmick failed and it was until they started overplaying their gimmick backstage that fans liked the goofiness. If New Day was one of those were WWE just decide to force it down people's throats, we'd have a really different scenario going on

Big Red Machine wrote: ↑Dec 3rd, '18, 08:26

cero2k wrote: ↑Dec 3rd, '18, 08:20 don't you guys forget that New Day got over despite WWE, their first gimmick failed and it was until they started overplaying their gimmick backstage that fans liked the goofiness. If New Day was one of those were WWE just decide to force it down people's throats, we'd have a really different scenario going on

That's true, but it doesn't change the fact that New Day are currently comedy goofs. It's the fickleness of wrestling fans that is the only thing that didn't result in resentment towards New Day for their own cheating and general douchebaggery like we saw with Roman in 2015-2017 where every time WWE tried to make him look cool, it backfired because he came across like a douchebag. The fact that the fans are willing to go along with New Day's goofy horsesh*t does not change the fact that it is goofy horsesh*t.

Big Red Machine wrote: ↑Dec 3rd, '18, 08:26

cero2k wrote: ↑Dec 3rd, '18, 08:20 don't you guys forget that New Day got over despite WWE, their first gimmick failed and it was until they started overplaying their gimmick backstage that fans liked the goofiness. If New Day was one of those were WWE just decide to force it down people's throats, we'd have a really different scenario going on

That's true, but it doesn't change the fact that New Day are currently comedy goofs. It's the fickleness of wrestling fans that is the only thing that didn't result in resentment towards New Day for their own cheating and general douchebaggery like we saw with Roman in 2015-2017 where every time WWE tried to make him look cool, it backfired because he came across like a douchebag. The fact that the fans are willing to go along with New Day's goofy horsesh*t does not change the fact that it is goofy horsesh*t.