Okay. That works then.Sassafras wrote:I was so caught up in the match that it took my be surprise, actually. That whole match had me buzzing.Big Red Machine wrote:Really? That's surprising. The ending (i.e. Ziggler stuff) was great but were you that into the Big Show turn?Sassafras wrote:Team Cena vs. Team Authority, Survivor Series 2014
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watching this on friday, but Meltzer just gave Ishii vs Homna 5stars. second of 2015
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Dave's off his f*cking rocker. The more idiotic your selling is, the more Dave likes it. At least where Ishii matches are concerned. At no point in his review did he mention the fact that their selling was inconsistent and their no-selling was just plain stupid. He seems to justify everything to himself because the crowd loved it, but I've seen plenty of crazy weapons matches from ECW and the rip-off deathmatch indies that the crowd went totally nuts for, but Dave would never praise those matches the way he praises these Ishii no-selling sh*tfests. If you want a match that the crowd went nuts for, how about some of those famous WWE and ROH matches that everyone in the world but Dave gives *****, but Dave stubbornly gives ****3/4?cero2k wrote:watching this on friday, but Meltzer just gave Ishii vs Homna 5stars. second of 2015
All of Dave's ratings of Ishii matches should just be ignored.
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gonna be honest, and i haven't watched it yet, but between Meltzer's 10 and your -5. I'm sure you're both exaggerating for your love/hate of IshiiBig Red Machine wrote:Dave's off his f*cking rocker. The more idiotic your selling is, the more Dave likes it. At least where Ishii matches are concerned. At no point in his review did he mention the fact that their selling was inconsistent and their no-selling was just plain stupid. He seems to justify everything to himself because the crowd loved it, but I've seen plenty of crazy weapons matches from ECW and the rip-off deathmatch indies that the crowd went totally nuts for, but Dave would never praise those matches the way he praises these Ishii no-selling sh*tfests. If you want a match that the crowd went nuts for, how about some of those famous WWE and ROH matches that everyone in the world but Dave gives *****, but Dave stubbornly gives ****3/4?cero2k wrote:watching this on friday, but Meltzer just gave Ishii vs Homna 5stars. second of 2015
All of Dave's ratings of Ishii matches should just be ignored.
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Yes. Someone who likes Ishii's "style" more than I do won't rate the match as low, but my point it is that at least I'm consistent. When Tomasso Ciampa does this sh*t in ROH, I hate it there, too. If Dave is going to give matches five stars based on crowd reaction, then there are a whole bunch of matches that he has stubbornly refused to give the full five to that he should go back and give the full five to.cero2k wrote:gonna be honest, and i haven't watched it yet, but between Meltzer's 10 and your -5. I'm sure you're both exaggerating for your love/hate of IshiiBig Red Machine wrote:Dave's off his f*cking rocker. The more idiotic your selling is, the more Dave likes it. At least where Ishii matches are concerned. At no point in his review did he mention the fact that their selling was inconsistent and their no-selling was just plain stupid. He seems to justify everything to himself because the crowd loved it, but I've seen plenty of crazy weapons matches from ECW and the rip-off deathmatch indies that the crowd went totally nuts for, but Dave would never praise those matches the way he praises these Ishii no-selling sh*tfests. If you want a match that the crowd went nuts for, how about some of those famous WWE and ROH matches that everyone in the world but Dave gives *****, but Dave stubbornly gives ****3/4?cero2k wrote:watching this on friday, but Meltzer just gave Ishii vs Homna 5stars. second of 2015
All of Dave's ratings of Ishii matches should just be ignored.
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Went back and watched some important/personal favorite AJPW matches (all focused around the "Four Corners" guys), with the intent of actually rating them this time. These are the ones that got a perfect rating.
*Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Jumbo Tsuruta - June 8, 1990
*Mitsuharu Misawa, Toshiaki Kawada, & Kenta Kobashi vs. Jumbo Tsuruta, Akira Taue, & Masanobu Fuchi - April 20, 1991
*Kenta Kobashi vs. Steve Williams - August 31, 1993
*Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Toshiaki Kawada - June 3, 1994
*Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kenta Kobashi - January 19, 1995
*Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Akira Taue - April 15, 1995
*Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi vs. The Holy Demon Army (Akira Taue & Toshiaki Kawada) - June 9, 1995
*Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi - October 31, 1998
*Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Jumbo Tsuruta - June 8, 1990
*Mitsuharu Misawa, Toshiaki Kawada, & Kenta Kobashi vs. Jumbo Tsuruta, Akira Taue, & Masanobu Fuchi - April 20, 1991
*Kenta Kobashi vs. Steve Williams - August 31, 1993
*Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Toshiaki Kawada - June 3, 1994
*Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kenta Kobashi - January 19, 1995
*Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Akira Taue - April 15, 1995
*Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi vs. The Holy Demon Army (Akira Taue & Toshiaki Kawada) - June 9, 1995
*Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi - October 31, 1998
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I remember seeing this for the first time about six years ago and hating it because it way too much hitting and almost no wrestling, and then getting into an argument on youtube about it. Haven't watched it since. Should probably go back and do so.Sassafras wrote: *Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi vs. The Holy Demon Army (Akira Taue & Toshiaki Kawada) - June 9, 1995
Also, while you're watching 90's All Japan stuff, you should check you Williams & Ace vs. Misawa & Akiyama from June 7 1996. I don't think I've ever seen the babyface in peril story told better.
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Just added Roddy vs. Kyle from Black Cole Sun.
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Good match. Exceptionally good, in fact. But, for some reason, not quite perfect.Big Red Machine wrote:
Also, while you're watching 90's All Japan stuff, you should check you Williams & Ace vs. Misawa & Akiyama from June 7 1996. I don't think I've ever seen the babyface in peril story told better.
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Also, the Taue/Kawada vs. Misawa/Kobashi match, I love BECAUSE it's so hard-hitting. Tells a story of warriors.
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What's the date on this one?Sassafras wrote:Also, the Taue/Kawada vs. Misawa/Kobashi match, I love BECAUSE it's so hard-hitting. Tells a story of warriors.
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I'm hearing that Sydal vs Ricochet at PWG's Out Of Nowhere is 5Star potential.
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June 9, 1995Big Red Machine wrote:What's the date on this one?Sassafras wrote:Also, the Taue/Kawada vs. Misawa/Kobashi match, I love BECAUSE it's so hard-hitting. Tells a story of warriors.
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All 3 Nobuhiko Takada vs. Vader matches from UWF International in Japan (December 1993, August 1994, and April 1995).
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i am seriously considering giving KUSHIDA vs Kyle O'Reilly at the Super Jrs tourny finals a 5 star
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I've heard people say similar. I'm planning on watching it later.cero2k wrote:i am seriously considering giving KUSHIDA vs Kyle O'Reilly at the Super Jrs tourny finals a 5 star
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Just watched the match. I'd give it 8.75 or a 9 (probably definitely a 9 if I had been watching it spoiler-free).Big Red Machine wrote:I've heard people say similar. I'm planning on watching it later.cero2k wrote:i am seriously considering giving KUSHIDA vs Kyle O'Reilly at the Super Jrs tourny finals a 5 star
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they out do the PWG one? nice!Big Red Machine wrote:And my first 10/10 of 2015 is...
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Think the PWG match but with a lot more intensity. It's like a cross between that match and Roddy vs. Dragon from ROH Vendetta.cero2k wrote:they out do the PWG one? nice!Big Red Machine wrote:And my first 10/10 of 2015 is...
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