I mean...yeah. Just declare it a stoppage because he is unable to continue and therefore Rollins is the winner....not all of this "white knight, Batman and The Joker, morale crisis, DON'T hit him with that hammer", "Oh I just said DON'T". Other shit mixed in in between.Big Red Machine wrote: ↑Oct 8th, '19, 14:17You're not wrong, but like NWK said, I think the blame lies with the execution from a production point of view rather than with the concept. Announcers better explaining what happened would have made it clear what was happening. If it had immediately been announced that Seth was the winner due to referee stoppage because The Fiend was unable to defend himself, it would not have caused the confusion that it did. WWE's mindset of obfuscation on things like finishes and rules is problematic, and (as I said) with the hindsight of the way they eventually announced it, it feels even more like a cop-out than the finish I thought it was (even though according to what they announced, the finish I thought it was was technically correct. The problem is that it can be equally read that they DQed Seth without using the word DQ). The problem was not with what we saw but with the way it was presented to us.cero2k wrote: ↑Oct 8th, '19, 08:28because it's WWE and because as much as WWE thinks the fans are stupid, fans think WWE is pretty stupid/arrogant to do so. It looked like a DQ, fans shouldn't need to have the rule book to check what applied, and the majority saw a DQ, wrestlers and critics alike.Big Red Machine wrote: ↑Oct 7th, '19, 23:14
Which I don't understand one bit. The "kicking too much ass" DQ has always been Bryan and Vinny being idiots. It's a DQ for not breaking in the corner. It's in the rules. The rules of HIAC state that there are no DQs, so how could anyone have possibly thought this was a DQ? I thought the fact that it was a ref stoppage was obvious.
Then again they did NOT WANT TO say Ray Wyatt "CAN NOT CONTINUE" because it symbolizes weakness within him.
I guess I'll drop the BRM favorite: "then don't book it as such."