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Post by Big Red Machine » Oct 7th, '19, 21:48

OPENING SEGMENT- horrible
We were apparently supposed to have Rusev vs. Orton but when the theme song ended, Orton, Corbin, and Rusev were all in the ring and the former two were jumping the latter. This was one of those things where you can tell that WWE is trying really hard to do things differently but just don’t realize how wrong their mindset about certain things is, to the point where it defeats their attempts to change. Let’s look at what happened here:
WWE wanted to get the show off to a hot start and create some excitement by doing something where it feels like they are breaking from their usual pattern. But in order to get the pieces in place for this break from the pattern, they had to break from their usual modus operandi (not having people in the ring before the show starts) with no logical explanation, which makes the whole situation feel forced and thus defeats much of the purpose of breaking from their usual pattern. Also, how about not having the heels wait until the theme song is over to launch their dastardly attack.
This attack is happening because they’re on the opposite sides of a Team Hogan vs. Team Flair match which is happening to appease a Saudi Prince. Hopefully this means we won’t get the usual stupid bullsh*t at Survivor Series this year.
Anyway, Rusev makes his own comeback and beats back both heels. Then Bobby Lashley takes over the TitanTron from Rusev’s house and jumps into bed with Lana. Lana tells Rusev that they no longer have joint bank accounts because everything is now hers. “Ah!” I thought. Lana must have divorced Rusev because he cheated on her with Maria. That would explain why she is so angry with him that she is taking glee in publicly humiliating him in this way.”
Nope. Lana is doing this because Rusev was sending remittances to his family back home in Bulgaria rather than spending his money on her. I’m not against this sort of stereotypical egotistical gold-digger bitch female character, but for G-d’s sake do it with someone like Mandy Rose where it fits the character. They have shown us Rusev and Lana go through so much on TV (it hasn’t even been a year since Aiden English tried to break them up) that I just don’t buy this. It feels like a new booker came in and figured he/she could just ignore things that had happened before. Like Joss Whedon’s terrible six-issue run on Runaways.
Anyway, Lashley’s promo was pretty good for what it was supposed to be. Rusev watches the whole thing, near tears. Instead of taking advantage of his distracted state, the heels just watched, too. I, meanwhile, was praying no one else walked into the room while Lashley and Lana were on the screen and thought I was watching porn in my living room.
Rusev fires up and beats up on Orton and Corbin some more. I’m supposed to feel sorry for him, but he was the one who cheated first, wasn’t he?

LACEY EVANS PROMO- “You know what happens at the end of the road, don’t ya? The trash is taken out for removal.” HUH?
Other than that, this was fine.

LAST WOMAN STANDING MATCH: Lacey Evans vs. Natalya- 6.75/10
This took a while to get going, but the buy the time it ended I felt it was worth the time I invested in it. They did a good job of building up to the finish.

They had a commercial plugging the draft, in which Cole told us that “it’s about Fox and it’s about USA positioning themselves with the top Superstars™.” Wow. This… actually makes sense. Of course, in order for that to work, they have to show us executives from the two networks making the picks rather than their usual off-screen Sorting Hat method. We’ll see what they do (hint: I’m not optimistic).

BRM’s ANNUAL SUSAN G. KOMEN ANTI-PLUG- If you want to help fight breast cancer, there are a lot of charities that will spend your money a lot better than Susan G. Komen, who are basically the WWE of the charity world. Check out CharityNavigator.com for a list.

ALEISTER BLACK PROMO- Yeah… he’s starting to sound like Bray Wyatt now.

THE STREET PROFITS WASTE TIME NOT DOING ANYTHING- bad
They mentioned some wrestlers (Buddy Murphy, Apollo Crews, Drake Maverick) and even the ones they tried to put over (Crews, Murphy) it felt like they were making fun of. Why are these guys being used as hype men and not wrestling?
Also, I took the liberty of looking up this “smoke” that they seem to so desire on Urban Dictionary. Turns out that it means a high from marijuana or opioids. Also, according to the very first example, the fact that Dawkins refers to Ford as “fam” means that Dawkins is something called a “f*ckboy.”

WWE MASTURBATES TO THEIR OWN PUBLICITY FROM THE TYSON FURY ANGLE WITH BRAUN- And, of course, some of these articles all but broke kayfabe. Of the ones where they showed up more than just a headline, it was the usually incompetent Yahoo! Who managed to do the best job of keeping things kayfabe (and thus something WWE should be putting on our screens). Also, they managed to avoid using the wrong homophone for the first three paragraphs, which has been a struggle for Yahoo in the past.

CHARLY CARUSO INTERVIEWS TYSON FURY- fine
He wants an apology from Braun.

THE VIKING RAIDERS vs. DOLPH ZIGGLER & ROBERT ROODE- 6.75/10
Once again this match got a lot of time and took a while to get going. This was more of a case of “they’re holding back for a bigger match” that it was it just taking a while to get into things like with the Last Woman Standing match. The Viking Raiders overcame a babyface in peril situation to get the clean win on the tag champs.

We are now an hour into the show and it feels completely detached from the PPV I watched last night. I’m not even sure there has been any mention of the main event.

ALEISTER BLACK CUTS A PROMO AGAIN- He’s finally f*cking figured out that this is a wrestling show and if he wants to fight someone so bad he should just go down to the ring and make an open challenge.

THE SINGH BROTHERS GOOF AROUND UNTIL THEY ARE INTERRUPTED BY ALEISTER BLACK- This became a handicap match in which Alesiter murderized them. Good. That’s what goofs deserve. You’d better not show your face around these parts, Heath Slater, or you’ll get the Black Mass and/or Aleister’s new submission choke finisher.

CHARLY CARUSO INTERIVEWS BRAUN STROWMAN- meh
This really wasn’t necessary. We all know he’s not going to apologize to Tyson Fury, so just gives us our confrontation already.

CHARLY CARUSO INTERVIEWS REY MYSTERIO JR.- averages out to being good
Rey says he is proud of his son from “taking his beating like a man.” BAD PARENTING! The second part of his promo about having to watch Brock “maul” Dominick was good, though. The story is that Cain is Dominick’s godfather and showed up at the hospital and offered to avenge Dominick. The problem with this is that Rey is passing off fighting his own battles to someone else, which is completely out of character.

WHO IS AOP VIDEO- It should be “Who ARE AOP.” Other than that, this was F*CKING AWESOME AND WHY ARE THEY NOT MURDERING PEOPLE IN THE RING YET?

LUCHA HOUSE PARTY vs. THE OC (Luke Gallows, Karl Anderson, & AJ Styles)- 6.5/10
OC win clean, then beat Lucha House Party up after the match.

MIZ TV WITH SPECIAL GUESTS CHARLOTTE FLAIR & BECKY LYNCH- Two babyfaces can’t be in one place without both saying they’d win the other’s title. WHY? And it’s even more ridiculous now when they’re going to have to be on different shows because of the draft. Then the Kabuki Warriors came out to cut a promo in Japanese and shoot an angle to set up a match that had already been booked. What a waste of time.

THE KABUKI WARRIORS vs. CHARLOTTE FLAIR & BECKY LYNCH- 6/10
Asuka pins Becky after the mist, so that sets up a big match.

POST-MATCH SEGMENT- good
Charlotte attacks Asuka but gets beaten down two-on-one. Alexa Bliss! & Nikki Cross come out to make the save.

CHARLY CARUSO INTERVIEWS APOLLO CREWS- He’s wrestling Ricochet tonight and they didn’t mention this before now. His promo was very good.

VIKING RAIDERS PROMO- Hanson moving around in the background was very distracting. They’re getting a title shot next week.

SARAH SCHREIBER INTERVIEWS RICOCHET- overly-scripted tripe

APOLLO CREWS vs. RICOCHET- 6.5/10
Good athleticism, but they weren’t given the time for this to be the “showcase” it was billed as. Ricochet won clean.

BRAUN STROWMAN/TYSON FURY CONFRONTATION- EXCELLENT segment
This was exactly what it needed to be, although I do think it went on a bit too long.


This wasn’t a bad episode of Raw, but it didn’t feel particularly important either, other than the main event segment. The lack of Sasha and especially Seth and The Fiend/Bray was a major negative here. Sasha apparently wasn’t cleared to wrestle but still could have cut a promo. The lack of follow up to the main event of Hell in a Cell makes me think that they are probably taking a good, long, hard think about what to do next after the finish of the main event bombed so badly.


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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by KILLdozer » Oct 7th, '19, 23:08

No, BRM. The meaning of "smoke" as they are using it here as the same as NBAYOUNGBOY saying "no smoke no smoke...these fat boys don't want it.", as in heat, fire, problems, trouble, smoke from a gun...

But...they DO WANT the smoke, "ALL OF IT", as they always say. In other words, they're here looking for a big fight.

The new ray have said this quite a few times well with the same meaning and connotation.

Then again..."not sure if serious or joking..."
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Post by NWK2000 » Oct 8th, '19, 09:30

I'm conflicted about the opening segment, like it's bad for all the reasons you described, but something about Bobby Lashley in a bathrobe with a million dollar smile on his face describing to Rusev how he fucked his wife, somehow makes him the most entertaining he's ever been.
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Post by KILLdozer » Oct 8th, '19, 10:21

And for the record, Maria does not have Rusev's baby. She admitted that was a lie last week lol.
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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by Big Red Machine » Oct 8th, '19, 11:29

NWK2000 wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 09:30
I'm conflicted about the opening segment, like it's bad for all the reasons you described, but something about Bobby Lashley in a bathrobe with a million dollar smile on his face describing to Rusev how he fucked his wife, somehow makes him the most entertaining he's ever been.
2nd most entertaining. Check out 2016 TNA champ Lashley.
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Post by Big Red Machine » Oct 8th, '19, 11:30

KILLdozer wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 10:21
And for the record, Maria does not have Rusev's baby. She admitted that was a lie last week lol.
Well then commentary should ha e reminded those of us who missed a week.
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Post by KILLdozer » Oct 8th, '19, 11:58

Big Red Machine wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 11:30
KILLdozer wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 10:21
And for the record, Maria does not have Rusev's baby. She admitted that was a lie last week lol.
Well then commentary should ha e reminded those of us who missed a week.
You should've known that idiot bitch was lying lol.
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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by Serujuunin » Oct 8th, '19, 12:36

I knew they were going to mangle Aleister’s character... I don’t even want to watch it.

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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by KILLdozer » Oct 8th, '19, 12:57

Serujuunin wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 12:36
I knew they were going to mangle Aleister’s character... I don’t even want to watch it.

Thanks Red for all your reviews, because I’m not watching RAW or Smackdown until they start getting some things right! Now what am I going to do with five spare hours a week...
There's nothing wrong with his character lol...idk What this fat boy is talking about...
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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by cero2k » Oct 8th, '19, 13:28

Serujuunin wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 12:36
I knew they were going to mangle Aleister’s character... I don’t even want to watch it.

Thanks Red for all your reviews, because I’m not watching RAW or Smackdown until they start getting some things right! Now what am I going to do with five spare hours a week...
sounds about the right amount to watch some Kota Ibushi in njpw

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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by Big Red Machine » Oct 8th, '19, 13:50

KILLdozer wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 12:57
Serujuunin wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 12:36
I knew they were going to mangle Aleister’s character... I don’t even want to watch it.

Thanks Red for all your reviews, because I’m not watching RAW or Smackdown until they start getting some things right! Now what am I going to do with five spare hours a week...
There's nothing wrong with his character lol...idk What this fat boy is talking about...
They fixed it, but if he hadn't actually done something tonight he would have been stuck in that Mojo Rawley-like stop and start thing.
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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by Serujuunin » Oct 8th, '19, 14:27

KILLdozer wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 12:57
Serujuunin wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 12:36
I knew they were going to mangle Aleister’s character... I don’t even want to watch it.

Thanks Red for all your reviews, because I’m not watching RAW or Smackdown until they start getting some things right! Now what am I going to do with five spare hours a week...
There's nothing wrong with his character lol...idk What this fat boy is talking about...
I mean Red's analogy to Bray Wyatt, and all the promos... It doesn't feel right compared to how he was in NXT. I don't like the kind of manic, unstable vibe they're doing.

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Post by Serujuunin » Oct 8th, '19, 14:28

cero2k wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 13:28
Serujuunin wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 12:36
I knew they were going to mangle Aleister’s character... I don’t even want to watch it.

Thanks Red for all your reviews, because I’m not watching RAW or Smackdown until they start getting some things right! Now what am I going to do with five spare hours a week...
sounds about the right amount to watch some Kota Ibushi in njpw
That's probably what I'll do once I get caught up with 205Live. I also got a box set of the Crocodile Hunter for my birthday so I'll be watching that too.

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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by KILLdozer » Oct 8th, '19, 14:41

Serujuunin wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 14:27
KILLdozer wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 12:57
Serujuunin wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 12:36
I knew they were going to mangle Aleister’s character... I don’t even want to watch it.

Thanks Red for all your reviews, because I’m not watching RAW or Smackdown until they start getting some things right! Now what am I going to do with five spare hours a week...
There's nothing wrong with his character lol...idk What this fat boy is talking about...
I mean Red's analogy to Bray Wyatt, and all the promos... It doesn't feel right compared to how he was in NXT. I don't like the kind of manic, unstable vibe they're doing.
I didn't pay much attention to that promo but I'd say he's just been this angry and intense brooding guy, without really going anywhere, that's probably what he meant lol.
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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by Big Red Machine » Oct 8th, '19, 15:07

KILLdozer wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 14:41
Serujuunin wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 14:27
KILLdozer wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 12:57


There's nothing wrong with his character lol...idk What this fat boy is talking about...
I mean Red's analogy to Bray Wyatt, and all the promos... It doesn't feel right compared to how he was in NXT. I don't like the kind of manic, unstable vibe they're doing.
I didn't pay much attention to that promo but I'd say he's just been this angry and intense brooding guy, without really going anywhere, that's probably what he meant lol.
That is what I meant.
I understand not liking the unstable version, but it does still feel like the same character to me so I can't complain too much. My issue was more that he is getting so angry at no one coming to him for a fight when he's on a f*cking wrestling show. it shouldn't have taken him months to figure that if he wants to fight he should just got to the ring. And if he wants to fight, why isn't the company booking him in matches. It's that sort of thing that shows that the company just wants someone they can have cut faux-deep promos from a dark room backstage every week rather than actually caring about the character.
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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by Serujuunin » Oct 8th, '19, 15:57

Big Red Machine wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 15:07
KILLdozer wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 14:41
Serujuunin wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 14:27


I mean Red's analogy to Bray Wyatt, and all the promos... It doesn't feel right compared to how he was in NXT. I don't like the kind of manic, unstable vibe they're doing.
I didn't pay much attention to that promo but I'd say he's just been this angry and intense brooding guy, without really going anywhere, that's probably what he meant lol.
That is what I meant.
I understand not liking the unstable version, but it does still feel like the same character to me so I can't complain too much. My issue was more that he is getting so angry at no one coming to him for a fight when he's on a f*cking wrestling show. it shouldn't have taken him months to figure that if he wants to fight he should just got to the ring. And if he wants to fight, why isn't the company booking him in matches. It's that sort of thing that shows that the company just wants someone they can have cut faux-deep promos from a dark room backstage every week rather than actually caring about the character.
That's fair, I can see that. I think my major issue is just that he talks too much, and he's... too expressive? To me he always seemed like he was the kind of guy to just laser-sight a goal and go after it, and not feel the need to explain himself, and he was kinda stone-faced all the time (except with Gargano really).

It does feel like they're after an image, or a mystique, and not really caring overmuch about the character.

If Red says they fixed it, then I will have some hope, but he's just one example of why I've been progressively losing faith in RAW and Smackdown about them being faithful to characters.

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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by KILLdozer » Oct 8th, '19, 19:40

Serujuunin wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 15:57
Big Red Machine wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 15:07
KILLdozer wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 14:41


I didn't pay much attention to that promo but I'd say he's just been this angry and intense brooding guy, without really going anywhere, that's probably what he meant lol.
That is what I meant.
I understand not liking the unstable version, but it does still feel like the same character to me so I can't complain too much. My issue was more that he is getting so angry at no one coming to him for a fight when he's on a f*cking wrestling show. it shouldn't have taken him months to figure that if he wants to fight he should just got to the ring. And if he wants to fight, why isn't the company booking him in matches. It's that sort of thing that shows that the company just wants someone they can have cut faux-deep promos from a dark room backstage every week rather than actually caring about the character.
That's fair, I can see that. I think my major issue is just that he talks too much, and he's... too expressive? To me he always seemed like he was the kind of guy to just laser-sight a goal and go after it, and not feel the need to explain himself, and he was kinda stone-faced all the time (except with Gargano really).

It does feel like they're after an image, or a mystique, and not really caring overmuch about the character.

If Red says they fixed it, then I will have some hope, but he's just one example of why I've been progressively losing faith in RAW and Smackdown about them being faithful to characters.
No he's pretty much the same, his only emotion is stoic anger for the most part. Just does more promo because it's Raw and Sd lol.
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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by Big Red Machine » Oct 9th, '19, 18:13

Serujuunin wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 15:57
Big Red Machine wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 15:07
KILLdozer wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 14:41


I didn't pay much attention to that promo but I'd say he's just been this angry and intense brooding guy, without really going anywhere, that's probably what he meant lol.
That is what I meant.
I understand not liking the unstable version, but it does still feel like the same character to me so I can't complain too much. My issue was more that he is getting so angry at no one coming to him for a fight when he's on a f*cking wrestling show. it shouldn't have taken him months to figure that if he wants to fight he should just got to the ring. And if he wants to fight, why isn't the company booking him in matches. It's that sort of thing that shows that the company just wants someone they can have cut faux-deep promos from a dark room backstage every week rather than actually caring about the character.
That's fair, I can see that. I think my major issue is just that he talks too much, and he's... too expressive? To me he always seemed like he was the kind of guy to just laser-sight a goal and go after it, and not feel the need to explain himself, and he was kinda stone-faced all the time (except with Gargano really).

It does feel like they're after an image, or a mystique, and not really caring overmuch about the character.

If Red says they fixed it, then I will have some hope, but he's just one example of why I've been progressively losing faith in RAW and Smackdown about them being faithful to characters.
I see what you're saying about it not feeling true to the character. I see it as Aleister giving us more of a view of what is inside his head, because he has always felt like a deep character, even without saying much (NXT commentary did a great job with this). My worry, however, is that Dozer's analysis about the reasoning is correct (if I'm being honest, I'm about 80% sure he's right), but I'm happy to hold out hope until proven otherwise.
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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by Earth Child » Oct 9th, '19, 19:21

cero2k wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 13:28
Serujuunin wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 12:36
I knew they were going to mangle Aleister’s character... I don’t even want to watch it.

Thanks Red for all your reviews, because I’m not watching RAW or Smackdown until they start getting some things right! Now what am I going to do with five spare hours a week...
sounds about the right amount to watch some Kota Ibushi in njpw
Yas, and drool over his abs. Then cringe when he almost breaks his neck on the apron!!

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Re: BRM Reviews the 10/7/2019 Raw

Post by Earth Child » Oct 9th, '19, 19:25

Serujuunin wrote:
Oct 8th, '19, 12:36
I knew they were going to mangle Aleister’s character... I don’t even want to watch it.

Thanks Red for all your reviews, because I’m not watching RAW or Smackdown until they start getting some things right! Now what am I going to do with five spare hours a week...
He saves me 5 hours a week too!
Thanks BRM for all your sacrifices :lol:

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