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Pre-Show:
* Sumi Sakai defeated Jenny Rose & Mandy Leone
* Top Prospect Tournament Match: Josh Woods defeated Brian Milonas
* Top Prospect Tournament Match: John Skyler defeated Curt Stallion

MANHATTAN MAYHEM VI:
* Christopher Daniels defeated TK O’Ryan
* Dalton Castle defeated Colt Cabana
* TV Title Match: Champion Marty Scurll defeated Sonjay Dutt
* Dragon Lee defeated Will Ospreay
* Tag Team Title Match: Champions The Young Bucks defeated Lio Rush & Jay White (Post match, the lights went out and when they came back on, Matt and Jeff Hardy were in the ring. They challenge the Bucks to face them right now and the Bucks agree.)



* Tag Team Title Match: The Hardys defeated Champions The Young Bucks
Hardys said they have contracts with ROH at least for now, no dates announced post WM weekend

* ROH Manhattan Battle Royal: Matt Taven won a future ROH title shot
* Hangman Page & Kazarian & Cody Rhodes defeated Jay Lethal & The Briscoes
* ROH Title Match: Champion Adam Cole defeated Bobby Fish
* Bullet Club then beat down Fish and Bubba Ray Dudley hit the ring to make the save. Bubba cut a promo about being home, and then teased that there was another offer on the table (TNA) but then there was a ROH offer on the table.

Now that TNA is becoming GFW, ROH is becoming TNA.

cero2k wrote:Now that TNA is becoming GFW, ROH is becoming TNA.

My thoughts exactly.

cero2k wrote:
* Tag Team Title Match: The Hardys defeated Champions The Young Bucks
Hardys said they have contracts with ROH at least for now, no dates announced post WM weekend

I think this is the part that really scares me, because I can totally see them just having the Bucks win the belts back at Supercard of Honor XI just for the sake of doing a switch and switch back. Delirious does it with the tag titles disturbingly often, so I can totally see them doing that here and thinking it was a good idea because "it was shocking" and "it got a big pop in the building," completely oblivious to the damage it does to the belts.

Big Red Machine wrote:

cero2k wrote:
* Tag Team Title Match: The Hardys defeated Champions The Young Bucks
Hardys said they have contracts with ROH at least for now, no dates announced post WM weekend

I think this is the part that really scares me, because I can totally see them just having the Bucks win the belts back at Supercard of Honor XI just for the sake of doing a switch and switch back. Delirious does it with the tag titles disturbingly often, so I can totally see them doing that here and thinking it was a good idea because "it was shocking" and "it got a big pop in the building," completely oblivious to the damage it does to the belts.

I can see this happening, I was also thinking that ROH probably wants to add some stipulations to the SCOH match and make it a big(ger) marquee match. It's Hardys and Bucks we're talking, this may be the only chance they can do a ladder match

cero2k wrote:

Big Red Machine wrote:

cero2k wrote:
* Tag Team Title Match: The Hardys defeated Champions The Young Bucks
Hardys said they have contracts with ROH at least for now, no dates announced post WM weekend

I think this is the part that really scares me, because I can totally see them just having the Bucks win the belts back at Supercard of Honor XI just for the sake of doing a switch and switch back. Delirious does it with the tag titles disturbingly often, so I can totally see them doing that here and thinking it was a good idea because "it was shocking" and "it got a big pop in the building," completely oblivious to the damage it does to the belts.

I can see this happening, I was also thinking that ROH probably wants to add some stipulations to the SCOH match and make it a big(ger) marquee match. It's Hardys and Bucks we're talking, this may be the only chance they can do a ladder match

So throw money at the Hardys to sign on for some more dates through BITW and do it there. That's not reason enough to do a ladder match, IMO, and especially not Mania weekend when you're already guaranteed to sell out with Hardys vs. Bucks on its own (which doing this here hurt because people will be able to see it on VOD before Mania weekend). It's hot-shotting in a way that actually hurts the product because it's so ridiculously short-sighted.

Here is Gabe's response, which sums up exactly why ROH is where it is right now:

https://twitter.com/BookItGabe/status/8 ... 1156422657