WWE News; Aleister Black, Maria Kanellis, and Tegan Nox All Injured

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Re: WWE News; Aleister Black, Maria Kanellis, and Tegan Nox All Injured

Post by Big Red Machine » Aug 11th, '18, 20:42

Bob-O wrote:
Aug 10th, '18, 21:59
Considering the ladies on the roster, the theory behind the women's revolution... Evolution (taking place on October 28, 2018, at the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum), it's absurd that there's a debate going on over if either CHAMPION is shittier than Alicia Fox... but here we are.

Carmella is terrible all around. Promos are out because her voice is worse than Baszler's. She could ruin the Hard Times promo. Universally agreed she's bad in the ring. She's also a Butter Face. Needs the belt to justify her job amongst her company. She's a "diva", and a bad one.

Bliss is universally attractive. Decent promo. Knows enough moves to wrestle the same match over and over without screwing it up. She's a "diva"... but more like a Trish Stratus-type, a keeper, but should not be champion. Needs the belt to justify her job amongst her company.

Alicia Fox is universally attractive. Could deliver the Hard Times promo, but nobody'd care. Knows less moves than Carmella and botches a lot. She's a diva amongst other divas.


My opinion, but with EVERYONE they've got... c'mon... there is NO EXCUSE that Carmella and Alicia still have jobs, and Bliss belongs in Carmella's spot (cheating to keep up with the real wrestlers).
Same match over and over? Come on. She worked entirely different matches against Mickie than against Jax than against Charlotte than against Asuka than against Sasha.
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Re: WWE News; Aleister Black, Maria Kanellis, and Tegan Nox All Injured

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Picture perfect. And even while she was still in NXT.

Plus, Alexa Bliss! doesn't need spots. She has psychology.
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Re: WWE News; Aleister Black, Maria Kanellis, and Tegan Nox All Injured

Post by KILLdozer » Aug 11th, '18, 22:43

Way too slow too actually mean anything. I could do that, and much quicker and more suddenly at that.
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Re: WWE News; Aleister Black, Maria Kanellis, and Tegan Nox All Injured

Post by KILLdozer » Aug 12th, '18, 01:48

Along the lines of cero's though "these two are your champions..." It should absolutely be Asuka and Sasha, respectively. The only reason they're in their spots is they don't have any other actually well built heels that are great in-ring. So it's "firey tough faces Chase the slimeball shitasses heels" kinda by default.
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Re: WWE News; Aleister Black, Maria Kanellis, and Tegan Nox All Injured

Post by Bob-O » Aug 12th, '18, 08:16

cero2k wrote:
Aug 11th, '18, 08:43
Bob-O wrote:
Aug 10th, '18, 21:59

Alicia Fox is universally attractive. Could deliver the Hard Times promo, but nobody'd care. Knows less moves than Carmella and botches a lot. She's a diva amongst other divas.
you shut your mouth!

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I type-o'd . Meant to say 'knows more moves than Carmella and botches a lot'. I'm nonetheless surprised somebody found 24 different moves to make a compilation about Alicia Fox (albeit 8 of them were simple kicks, 4 were variations of the same suplex, and they had to reach back to Matt Striker days and FCW to get some of those), but no need to argue Alicia being better in the ring than Carmella. Carmella makes Alicia Fox look like Johnny Gargano.
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Same match over and over? Come on. She worked entirely different matches against Mickie than against Jax than against Charlotte than against Asuka than against Sasha.
Right, but how about different matches from the SAME opponent? I don't expect much from Jax, and Asuke matches are by design mostly trying not to die, but I've got a funny feeling that Alexa rematches with any of them are going to look very familiar. It's not a big deal, we've watched two of the best wrestlers in the world punch each other in the nuts for the last six months. But, say for example, Sasha and Bayley can give you a different match every time and make you care about each one.

I don't have an issue with Alexa, but she's a Sports Entertainer on a roster full of wrestlers. If you're going to mix the entertainers with the wrestlers, the belt should probably be on an entertainer. It works on Raw because Alexa is the right person to pull it off. She's a great character. Nobody wants to watch Asuke, Charlotte, and Becky chase after fucking Carmella for the title. She's just not any good.
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Re: WWE News; Aleister Black, Maria Kanellis, and Tegan Nox All Injured

Post by Big Red Machine » Aug 12th, '18, 09:55

A Carmella-esque champion can work every once in a while. The problem is that WWE only really had one trick for her: Ellsworth. She needs to have about eight different tricks in order for it to work, with each babyface overcoming the one that felled the previous babyface, only to get screwed in a new way.
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Post by KILLdozer » Aug 12th, '18, 11:35

Neither of them are Edge Jr., in their shitass cheating ways, that's for sure.
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Re: WWE News; Aleister Black, Maria Kanellis, and Tegan Nox All Injured

Post by Bob-O » Aug 12th, '18, 13:06

Big Red Machine wrote:
Aug 12th, '18, 09:55
A Carmella-esque champion can work every once in a while. The problem is that WWE only really had one trick for her: Ellsworth. She needs to have about eight different tricks in order for it to work, with each babyface overcoming the one that felled the previous babyface, only to get screwed in a new way.
She's just the wrong choice for the part. She wasn't over at all when she won mitb. Winning the title didn't get her over. Retaining the title hasn't gotten her over. And, it's because she's bad. At everything. She has no place there.

If they felt the need to go with an "entertainer" as champ (screen time, ppvs, exposure) they should have gone with Peyton using Billie as her wild card.
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Neither of them are Edge Jr., in their shitass cheating ways, that's for sure.
No, but I think Alexa could have a HOF worthy career in front of her all the same.
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Re: WWE News; Aleister Black, Maria Kanellis, and Tegan Nox All Injured

Post by KILLdozer » Aug 12th, '18, 13:14

Obviously, "5 time champion already" . These motha fuckers are gonna break the Ric Flair record in a year or so. Don't worry about Cena or Orton lol.
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Re: WWE News; Aleister Black, Maria Kanellis, and Tegan Nox All Injured

Post by KILLdozer » Aug 14th, '18, 19:40

This is the biggest, longest, and healthiest discussion about one thing we've probably in one topic in a while. I'm not letting this die.
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