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Bound for Glory headed to Ottawa, Jim Cornette done with Impact

Post by Big Red Machine » Sep 18th, '17, 13:24

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By Dave Meltzer | @davemeltzerWON | Sep 18, 2017 9:37 am

Bound for Glory is headed to Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

Impact Wrestling announced today that the Aberdeen Pavilion would be hosting the pay-per-view on November 5th, with television tapings also set for the venue on November 6-10.

When the word got out that the tapings were being moved to Canada, a number of people in wrestling inquired about the status of Jim Cornette, who has been all over the recent television shows as the head of authority for the promotion.

Cornette hasn't been to Canada for years because he was turned away at the border in 2010 when they ran his record, which included a number of assaults, mostly stemming from incidents involving fights with fans who attacked him while he was a manager at matches in the 80s. He had been going to Canada for years, including his WWF run, with no incident, prior to 2010. When he worked for ROH, he never attended the shows in Toronto.

Because of that, Cornette won't be at the next set of tapings and is done with the promotion, which he said there is no heat over and it's just a matter of circumstances.

Cornette is expected to go into more detail on this on his podcast on Thursday.

GFW officials confirmed his being done yesterday as did Cornette today. Cornette noted that he came to GFW after being called in August by Jeff Jarrett, and the agreement was just to work one set of television tapings to facilitate a few storylines, which were the stripping of the championship from Alberto El Patron and the gauntlet match, the on-screen firing of Bruce Prichard so he could return as a heel manager, and to try and make Anthem Sports & Entertainment babyfaces to the wrestling fans.

After the tapings, he and Jarrett agreed that he would come back for Bound for Glory and for a few days at the next tapings in November. Cornette didn't know his status with Jarrett now out of the company and the company's creative, headed by Scott D'Amore and Sonjay Dutt, said to be more focused on in-ring action and less on authority figure angles.

Cornette hadn't heard from anyone in the company other than Bob Ryder, who told him not to believe what he read on the Internet, and spoke to Dutch Mantell, where he explained with the tapings being done in Canada that he wouldn't be able to appear.

Cornette agreed to come to Nashville and do whatever would be needed on camera to do a storyline exit. Right now there is nothing on the table for it.


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Re: Bound for Glory headed to Ottawa, Jim Cornette done with Impact

Post by Big Red Machine » Sep 18th, '17, 13:26

Big Red Machine wrote:
Sep 18th, '17, 13:24
Source: www.F4WOnline.com
company's creative, headed by Scott D'Amore and Sonjay Dutt, said to be more focused on in-ring action and less on authority figure angles.
And it only took them a decade of making the same mistakes to figure this out.
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Re: Bound for Glory headed to Ottawa, Jim Cornette done with Impact

Post by Serujuunin » Sep 18th, '17, 23:27

Big Red Machine wrote:
Sep 18th, '17, 13:26
Big Red Machine wrote:
Sep 18th, '17, 13:24
Source: www.F4WOnline.com
company's creative, headed by Scott D'Amore and Sonjay Dutt, said to be more focused on in-ring action and less on authority figure angles.
And it only took them a decade of making the same mistakes to figure this out.
A lesson the WWE still needs to learn.

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Re: Bound for Glory headed to Ottawa, Jim Cornette done with Impact

Post by Big Red Machine » Sep 18th, '17, 23:54

Serujuunin wrote:
Sep 18th, '17, 23:27
Big Red Machine wrote:
Sep 18th, '17, 13:26
Big Red Machine wrote:
Sep 18th, '17, 13:24
Source: www.F4WOnline.com
company's creative, headed by Scott D'Amore and Sonjay Dutt, said to be more focused on in-ring action and less on authority figure angles.
And it only took them a decade of making the same mistakes to figure this out.
A lesson the WWE still needs to learn.
Yeah, but it never seemed as... pointless in WWE, aside from the Foley-Steph stuff, whereas in TNA it always made me scream at the TV that they were throwing everything away. With TNA it always feels like they're doing the same f*cking story over and over and over again.
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Re: Bound for Glory headed to Ottawa, Jim Cornette done with Impact

Post by cero2k » Sep 19th, '17, 09:42

Big Red Machine wrote:
Sep 18th, '17, 23:54
Serujuunin wrote:
Sep 18th, '17, 23:27

A lesson the WWE still needs to learn.
Yeah, but it never seemed as... pointless in WWE, aside from the Foley-Steph stuff, whereas in TNA it always made me scream at the TV that they were throwing everything away. With TNA it always feels like they're doing the same f*cking story over and over and over again.
Impact repeats a lot on angles, mainly invading stables, but no one, no one, beats WWE in crap authority gimmicks, especially since 80% of those have have a McMahon (or related) as the main character.
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Re: Bound for Glory headed to Ottawa, Jim Cornette done with Impact

Post by Big Red Machine » Sep 19th, '17, 10:32

cero2k wrote:
Sep 19th, '17, 09:42
Big Red Machine wrote:
Sep 18th, '17, 23:54
Serujuunin wrote:
Sep 18th, '17, 23:27

A lesson the WWE still needs to learn.
Yeah, but it never seemed as... pointless in WWE, aside from the Foley-Steph stuff, whereas in TNA it always made me scream at the TV that they were throwing everything away. With TNA it always feels like they're doing the same f*cking story over and over and over again.
Impact repeats a lot on angles, mainly invading stables, but no one, no one, beats WWE in crap authority gimmicks, especially since 80% of those have have a McMahon (or related) as the main character.
I actually think the reason people find it more... tolerable... when WWE does it is because it's almost always the McMahons in charge, and thus- especially during the Vince/Steph/Hunter era, it feels like the same on-going storyline. The McMahons might appoint people like Kane, Bryan, Foley, or Kurt to help them run the show, but it is always the McMahons in charge, as opposed to in TNA where we went from crazy Foley to Bischoff & Hogan to Dixie to MVP to MVP and Dixie at the same time to Maria etc, (and that's not even getting into the top heel stable aspect).
The other issue is that WWE's stuff is more internally consistent about who has power. Aside from the fact that they just ignored Vince losing power in 2011, they've been pretty consistent and things have made sense. In TNA we had Mick Foley as the "executive shareholder" but then somehow Bischoff and Hogan got enough stock to take control or whatever because Dixie signed the company away even though Foley was the one who had a controlling stock interest, and they've still got Foley running around on TV with no explanation as to why he doesn't have his stocks anymore. Then Foley comes back as a representative appointed by "The Network" with his ability to control things dictated by the needs of the plot. Then when MVP came along, he apparently bought half of the stock, but was somehow able to be removed from power by some unknown force (which surely wasn't Dixie because the guy appointed to replace MVP was one of Dixie's enemies as well). Then MVP somehow is forced to leave the company even though he owns half of it. Then we've Dixie and Corgan both running around as babyface authority figures and yet somehow they need someone else to run the Knockouts Division for them, so we wind up with Maria running the division like a total heel even though she has two babyface bosses who are doing nothing to stop her with no explanation...

You see what I mean?


A third possible issue is that, while the McMahons are annoying by virtue of their unwanted presence in the product, Vince and Steph are both good enough actors to carry their roles (and Bryan to a lesser extent, and Foley when he's not breaking in tears at the drop of a hat), whereas with exception of Bischoff, MVP, and Maria (and Cornette, going back a bit before this) the other people TNA has placed in that roll- most notably Dixie, because she's been in it for so long, but also Hogan, Sting, and Corgan) - have not been able to carry that load well at all. Thus, while the McMahons' segments are bad (or at least annoying) from a storyline point of view, TNA's authority figure segments have usually been bad both from a storyline point of view and from an acting point of view.
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